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SalviMar Review - Torsion 2 (plus other bits)

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ILDiver

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A short while ago I got a PM from a friend asking what I thought of this new shaft he found online. It was a SalviMar Torsion 2 (Salvimar home page). I had never seen it, but I was curious. I loved the idea and how low profile it was. I started searching for information right away. I contacted SalviMar directly to see who sells the Torsion 2. It turned out that they do not have a direct US distributor. OMER distributes some of their stuff, but they are looking for a US distributor for the rest of their line. SalviMar allowed me to order from them in order to try their Torsion 2.

I'm going to start with a couple of their tips. The first is the OMER Tahitian tip. I've been using this tip for just over a year. When I ordered it, I thought it would be a little to big for the type of fish we hunt in Wisconsin. Once I got it, it was smaller that the tips on the JBL's guys were using at the time. It's done really well. The main body of the tip slims down and the floppers lay in very tight making the penetration small. The floppers span out to about 3.5" - 4" and hold strong. The tips can be straightened and repaired if you hit a rock. You still have to be careful not to snap it.

The tip I ordered from SalviMar was their Martin tip. It looked like it was an update to the Tahitian tip. Well, it is about 1.5 times as big! I was a bit worried, but I thought it would work on carp, so no worries. A very nice feature is that the point of this harpoon is replaceable. SalviMar sells both stainless and tempered tips. The first dive out I mounted it to my 6.75mm shaft on my 55cm gun. I was in the water 10 minutes and came across a freshwater drum. It was about a 12" fish. I placed a shot right just behind the gill plate and slightly into the meat of the fish. I was impressed with the tip. It barely made a hole in the fish, it was the size of the 6.75mm shaft, even after I pulled the tip back through. The hole was the same size ad the Tahitian tip makes. The barbs span about 5" and held the 14lb carp with ease. This tip will hold a 50lb + record carp! The tempered points hold up to glancing blows off of rocks too. The tips got scuffed but did not distort like stainless points do. Tempered tips are probably more likely to break it they hit a rock at a wrong angle.

It will be tough to choose which tip to use now.

The next item is an accessory. SalviMar makes a tip holder that you can carry on your float. It will carry two extra tips along with you so you can replace a damaged tip or switch to that 4 prong you've been wanting to try on pan fish when you come across them. I put my Tahitian tip and a spare tempered Martin point on the holder. They were dangling in the water. At the end of the 3 or 4 hour dive in 50 degree water I pulled my float into the shore. The Martin point was gone and the Tahitian tip was loose. So I'm assuming the low temperature slightly shrank the metal allowing them to come loose. So in the future I'll have to check them after I'm in the water for a bit, also I'll probably put them in points in the velcro bag on top of the float, and clip them on the outside so I can get to them easy.

Finally, the Torsion 2 shafts, the reason for this whole review. The shortest shafts they sell are for 90cm guns, so my choice of gun is driven by the visibility. So I have not been able to use the Torsion 2. However I will give you my initial impressions.

So far my favorite tip to use on my 90cm gun has been my Mori Slip-Tip. It's supper low profile and sleek design is great. So when I was shown the Torsion 2, I was definitely curious. The barb is a cut tube that has a notch purpose cut into the shaft for it to rest. It's not hinged on with a rivet like a standard flopper. The flopper sits on the top of the shaft when the shaft is in the gun so the flopper remains stowed. Once the shaft as come to a stop after going through your fish the flopper deploys with an unrelenting grip. Getting the spear out of your fish is easier than getting it into the fish. Stow the flopper back into it's groove and it slides out instantly.

The shafts come with three different configurations for the notches. A recessed shark fin, a recessed pin and the standard notches.

I hope to have word on the shafts preformance soon, but no promises on a time frame. I will be sure to give my full impressions. I have to think I'm going to love it based on what I can see. I have a few things I'm wondering about, but I don't want to comment on those at this point. Once I find out who they get to distribute in the US for them I'll pass the word on.

I also did a video review:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI2Kgh0iBaY]YouTube - SalviMar Review - Torsion 2 Shaft (plus other bits)[/ame]
 
Oh, you did it!
I expect much from your Torsion 2 review and I'm myself very tempted as I've come to the conclusion that flopper is fundamental for accuracy. Since I hunt in moslty rockty bottoms I'm not much favourable to use such an expensive shaft. But I guess it must be super accurate in open water and very challenging for the biggest fish.
 
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I did mess with the spear in the water a little. and the flopper does not rattle and make a bunch of noise while moving it about. I'm trying to get my wife to let me fly to Florida, but something about leaving on Thursday and Thanksgiving....and money!? Women! :D
 
I saw those linked on SalviMar's site. I wondered if they posted them.

That video shows the o-ring still on. I took mine off, I don't like the idea of relying on the penetration to move the o-ring so the flopper can deploy. I'm not sure if they had it for shipping or if it's meant to be used??

I love how smooth it all is. I must work on a trip to Florida to test this thing out! I wish I could get one to fit on my 55cm gun.

Spags, pick one up and try it out. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on it. It should be good, even though it's Italian made.... (rofl)
 
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The O-ring does not "have to" be used. But it's a bit of kit that may help: I often use barb rings on double flopper shafts, or on hawaiian (flopper down), and never had issues such as flopper not opening due to o-ring not shifting. Just a caution: i place the o-ring only on the last final little bit of edge of the flopper, so that it doesn't have to shift much, just a millimeter, to let the flopper open.
Of course I don't know how the Torsion 2 behaves in water (does the flopper "flip" in choppy water? I don't think so as it looks heavy and stable), but I always give faith to manufacturers: if they provide the torsion 2 with o-ring, it must be for some good reason...
 
Hi. I have been using a torsion2 in a cyrano 110. In loading the gun, the o ring slides up close to the barb and it takes 1/2 a second to position from there. In testshots, it slides back along the shaft just through water resistance (ie without hitting a fish) and the barb stays in place through water pressure too, I guess.

I like it- it looks 'right' in the sense that it is very streamlined and symmetric. The point is really sharp and the barb has no extra resistance when penetrating fish.
An advantage is that by repositioning the barb on the shaft, you can easily pull the spear back through the fish without it catching.

And I am either on a lucky streak or this spear makes a difference- not only hitting the fish lately but the flopper works- they stay on. It is only a series of about 7 fish in 10 shots but I am impressed enough to buy a torsion2 for my cyrano 970 too.

kees
 
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Hello and welcome to db.
Thanks for the review.
Sounds like you fish quite a bit?
 
Thanks for the review Ildiver & welcome Kees

I really love the Salvimar Torsion 2 shafts , I used one for a year Never lost a fish , until it finally Bent on a heavy fish and had to switch to my Demka ,
 
If anybody in the US is looking for a Salvimar shafts , they are available
At James and Joseph http://www.jamesandjoseph.net/


for the skeptic's Here is a picture of what a salvimar powered by a C4 Mr. Carbon 119 can do:) ,
 

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I got to use this shaft some more a couple of months ago. I still love it. Fish removal is very easy when you want them off and the fish won't come off unless you take it off. It is thin at the tip due to the streamline design, but You just have to be careful.
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Can u guys check for me if the shaft is magnetic??? (I don't know how u call it in english but i have magnetic shaft holder in the muzzle of my custom made speargun and I need a shaft that can be held by it). Could u possibly check the shaft using neodymium magnet??? I'd be very grateful
 
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