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Sea Scooters - classed as hand luggage on flights?

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Scuby

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Hi all :wave,

Finally getting out to Cyprus soon after a year without free diving :(
I was thinking of buying a sea scooter - the Dolphin made sea-doo clone (or is the sea-doo a dolphin clone?!).

Anyways - what I'm wondering is whether I can blag one of these onto a flight as hand luggage? Previously when we've been out they've weighed the hand luggage about 50% of the time. This thing weighs 6 and half kilos with the battery. Any thoughts...?

Oh yeah - I suppose I better ask - are sea scooters much fun for free diving? (it has 20m limit).

Cheers :cool:
 
How big is it? The main criterea will be if it will fit in the overhead lockers, if it wont forget it! If it will, speak nicely to the check in staff or take the battery out and stash it in other luggage
 
Apparantly it's 30cmx30cmx60cm and comes in it's own very stylish and subtle "tennis ball" yellow holdall....
 
Not sure about the model you are looking at, but a scooter with sufficient power is a huge kick to free dive with. Highly recommended!

Connor
 
Cheers Connor - thought it must be a blast!
It says it has thrust for a speed of up to 4.2km/h, 90 Watt motor with 12V / 12Ah, rechargeable battery.

Seems to be a halfway house between seadoo and seadoo gti in spec - there is a 150 watt model but it weighs another 2 kilos although does 5km/h
 
Its a bit big Scuby, not to big but if its over weight you might get problems with the check in and cabin crew, best if you could take the batteries out then and then there would be no problem :)
 
Anything with the possibility of leakage, especially Lead acid cells are looked at very dimly by Airlines.
I would be tempted to see what I could get away with but I know that they are getting stricter all the time with weight limits especially on hand luggage.
The worst are the budget carriers, Ryanair especially.
 
Ah - good point - have now learnt all about battery technology in the last half hour courtesy of Google!!

The Heathrow luggage guide says no to traditional 'wet' lead acid batteries, but as far as I can tell the scooter uses sealed AGM lead type batteries which are dry and will not spill so should be OK?
 
Car type batteries in a sea scooter? rofl I doubt it lol what if you decided to use it to go vertically up or down? They will be the dry type Im sure and besides if the whole thing weighs 6Kg then you can bet your boarding card they wont be ;)
 
Does this answer your query?
AGM batteries are still lead acid just the acid is in a fibreglass mat.
 
Don't understand - Gel batteries are also lead acid, the acid being held in the gel crystals, but this one says airline approved. If this is airline approved an AGM must be as well?
 
I dont know, either its a car type battery and can leak or its not but if its airline aproved then you should be OK, best thing to do is ask the relevant airline, give them a bell and ask them, they will tell you exactly what is and isnt allowed, every ariline is a little different
 
Definitive answer

OK, after much research it seems that all sealed lead acid batteries (and gel are much more likely to leak in case failure than AGM surprisingly) are unregulated/classed as non hazardous as far as IATA goes, as long as they are "non spillable" by virtue of having passed the vibration and pressure differential test in IATA/ICAO special provision A67.

Most new sealed lead acid batteries have been tested and have "NON-SPILLABLE" per 49 CFR 173.159(d) labelled on them in which case no probs. If you repackage the batteries either as batteries or as a component of another product you must label the outer package "NON-SPILLABLE" per 49 CFR 173.159(d). The only requirement is that they are shipped in a condition that will protect them from short circuit (nothing a bit of electrical tape can't sort out!)

More importantly from my point of view though, I checked with Thomas Cook Airlines and they don't have a problem. Unfortunately the bastar...er...nice people wouldn't class it as diving equipment, nor my Sea-Pro optolite video housing either so no free extra weight allowance there.....humpf!
 
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Nice one Scuby :)
Wouldn't class it as diving equipment? Shove it in a golf sack! What a system these people have :duh My hubby's freind has just been to India with a kayak, shoved his clothes inside it and used it as a suitcase, no extra charge!!
 
Hi all, along this line I have got a week in Fuerteventura mid November travelling on Excel Airways. When reading the above thread I seem to be picking up there may be some form of diving equipment allowance on airlines????
I was thinking about shoving stuff into my surfboard bag but if there is a separate allowance then that would be even better in the nice dive bag I have as I still have a wife and toddler to pack into my surfboard bag too!!rofl
Any info, while I nip off to trawl through the airlines t&c's

cheers

I HAVE FOUND THE INFO...

*Diving equipment-Passengers taking diving equipment on all flights are now allowed 10 kilos excess baggage free of charge in addition to their normal 20 kilos luggage allowance. Please be advised that all excess baggage is subject to space and availability on the day of departure. If tanks are carried please ensure that these are emptied and the cylinder valve is loose. Large groups of divers must inform the Pre-flight department at least one week prior to departure. (No additional allowance will be available on long haul flights)*


Further info.....

CABIN BAGGAGE


<LI>Only one piece of hand baggage per passenger will be permitted in the cabin.
<LI>This item should weigh no more than 5 kilos with the total dimensions of 115 cms (45 inches), and should include no sharp items.
<LI>It must be able to fit under the seat or in the overhead locker.
<LI>In addition to the above, each passenger is allowed to take one normal sized carrier bag, containing duty free goods.


HOLD BAGGAGE

<LI>The weight of the baggage permitted for carriage in the hold of the aircraft, is normally 20 kilos per passenger. However this may differ with flights to certain tour operators/destinations. Please see our services table for details / check with pre-flight (on 08701677747 or by using our contact us page http://www.xl.com/Feedback/fb_Feedback.asp) department for details of your specific flight.
<LI>Carriage of excess baggage will be undertaken subject to space and availability on the day, a charge will be made. Departures ex UK; short-haul £5 per kg, Gambia and Egypt £6 per kg. A charge 6 Euros per kg will also be made from the following overseas airports; Arrecife, Las Palmas, Tenerife, Malaga, Alicante, Malta. MAXIMUM PIECE WEIGHT. Health and Safety regulations require us to limit the maximum weight per single item of baggage to 32kgs. Individual items or bags exceeding 32kgs cannot be accepted for carriage and passengers will be required to repack their luggage. This does not affect the baggage allowance.
<LI>Although Infants do not have a free baggage allowance, nappies, collapsible pushchairs and buggies will be accepted in addition to the parents allowance.


RESTRICTED ARTICLES

Very strict legislation exists on the carriage of flammable or poisonous substances. Items such as paint, varnish, lighter fuel, gas refills for hair stylers, fireworks or party poppers cannot be carried. Pistols cannot be carried and the regulations concerning the carriage of sporting guns or the rules on restricted items can be obtained from our Special Requirements department.

The following items are not permitted for carriage in the aircraft cabin with you, toy or replica guns, Catapults, Household cutlery, Knives with blades of any length, Paper knifes, Razor blades, Tradesmen's tool, Darts, Scissors, Knitting needles, Sporting Bats (i.e:Cricket), Billard and snooker or pool cues. All of these items must be carried in your hold baggage.


CARRIAGE OF SPECIAL AND SPORTING ITEMS

Parties taking large numbers of sporting items should contact our Special Requirements department prior to departure. It is also strongly recommended that you take out a separate insurance for special items or sporting equipment.

<LI>Golf clubs-Golfers are allowed to carry a total of 8 kilos (the approximate weight of a half set of golf clubs) of equipment free of charge. Anything over that weight will be subject to the normal excess baggage charge. (no additional allowance will be available on long haul flights)
<LI>Skis/Snowboards/Poles/Boots- Possible charge levied by the tour operator.
<LI>Bicycles-Can be carried but will incur a fee of £35 per bicycle short-haul and £45 long-haul. These must be pre-arranged via the Pre-flight (on 08701677747 or by using our contact us page http://www.xl.com/Feedback/fb_Feedback.asp) department between 3 months and 5 working days prior to departure. Bicycles should be packed with the tyres deflated, handlebars fixed sideways, pedals removed, and packed adequately to protect from damage.
<LI>Windsurfers/Surfboards-Must all be pre-arranged via the Pre-flight (on 08701677747 or by using our contact us page http://www.xl.com/Feedback/fb_Feedback.asp) department, between 3 months and 3 working days prior to departure. The following charges will apply which should be paid to the Pre-flight (on 08701677747 or by using our contact us page http://www.xl.com/Feedback/fb_Feedback.asp) department;
<LI>Windsurfs short-haul £45
<LI>Surfboards short-haul £11
<LI>Kite-surfs short-haul £45

NB Carriage of equipment is always subject to space and availability on the day of departure. HANGLIDERS ARE NOT ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE, Non-motorised Parasails or Paragliders which have no rigid parts will be accepted.

<LI>Diving equipment-Passengers taking diving equipment on all flights are now allowed 10 kilos excess baggage free of charge in addition to their normal 20 kilos luggage allowance. Please be advised that all excess baggage is subject to space and availability on the day of departure. If tanks are carried please ensure that these are emptied and the cylinder valve is loose. Large groups of divers must inform the Pre-flight department at least one week prior to departure. (No additional allowance will be available on long haul flights)
<LI>Flying after diving-All passengers must leave a minimum surface interval of at least 12 hours prior to flying after diving. This recommendation is based after a single non-stop dive. If passengers plan to make daily, multiple dives for several days or make a dive requiring an emergency decompression stop, special precaution must be taken. Its recommended that passengers extend their surface interval beyond 24 hours prior to flying after diving.
<LI>Wedding dresses-Wedding dresses and other important accessories should be suitably packed for carriage in the aircraft hold. No charge is levied for the carriage of the wedding dress if prior notice is given to the Special Requirements department. We would strongly recommend that passengers take out a separate insurance for these items.
<LI>Wedding cakes are not carried
 
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Excel have a list of pre bookable and supliments on their website Im sure

Edit: Yeah like that rofl
 
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