Hi, i'm a total novice at spearfishing. recently bought a Seac Sub Crossbow 80 railgun on ebay. Doe's anyone know anything about these guns or if anyone stocks them or assesories for them in the UK. I am unable to work out how to attach a line to this model. There is an attachment point at the front of the gun to tie a line to. And there is some sort of clip in the base of the handle. But for the life of me, I cannot understand how the line would be retained by it or see any other means of storing loose line. Any ideas?
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Seac Sub Crossbow 80
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Hi, i'm a total novice at spearfishing. recently bought a Seac Sub Crossbow 80 railgun on ebay. Doe's anyone know anything about these guns or if anyone stocks them or assesories for them in the UK. I am unable to work out how to attach a line to this model. There is an attachment point at the front of the gun to tie a line to. And there is some sort of clip in the base of the handle. But for the life of me, I cannot understand how the line would be retained by it or see any other means of storing loose line. Any ideas?
believe it or not, I have a Crossbow too, but I used it only two or three times.
As I remember, yes, there's a "crocodile mouth" clip at the base of the handle, but it isn't tight and doesn't hold firmly. There is also a sort of plastic "curl" under the handle, but I couldn't say if that "curl" can be used as a line holder (I didn't try).
What did I do? I used the crocodile clip making loops of line around it, not too tight, in such a way that was easy to release after the shot. Just try.
Of course making loops would be harder if you use solid nylon monoline, while dyneema or other soft strings are better for this purpose.
More questions are welcome if you need any further discussion about this model: it's not exactly my cup of tea, but as I told you I still have one at home.
Enjoy the sea
As I remember, yes, there's a "crocodile mouth" clip at the base of the handle, but it isn't tight and doesn't hold firmly. There is also a sort of plastic "curl" under the handle, but I couldn't say if that "curl" can be used as a line holder (I didn't try).
What did I do? I used the crocodile clip making loops of line around it, not too tight, in such a way that was easy to release after the shot. Just try.
Of course making loops would be harder if you use solid nylon monoline, while dyneema or other soft strings are better for this purpose.
More questions are welcome if you need any further discussion about this model: it's not exactly my cup of tea, but as I told you I still have one at home.
Enjoy the sea
Thanks Spagetti,
still not worked out how you retain the loops of line though!! What type of gun do you use now & what do you dislike about the Crossbow?
still not worked out how you retain the loops of line though!! What type of gun do you use now & what do you dislike about the Crossbow?
does the spear have a slide ring on it? If so the line attaches to the slidering and the muzzle, then the loose part clips into the hook in front of the trigger (you have approx 2 barrel lengths of line)
If there is no slide ring, the line attaches to the back of the spear, runs up through the muzzle, then back to the clip by the handle and back up to the muzzle (approx 3 barrel lengths of line)
There is nothing inherently wrong with the crossbow,so long as you didn't pay more than about £25, it is just a cheap, beginners gun; heavy spear and thin rubbers limit the range, the line release is not ideal, and it uses screw on heads rather than a tahitian shaft. I think Seac stopped making them a couple of years ago, but parts are interchangeable with most other guns. Beaver are the UK distributor for Seac, but are unlikely to be able to answer any spearfishing related questions!
cheers
dave
www.spearo.co.uk
If there is no slide ring, the line attaches to the back of the spear, runs up through the muzzle, then back to the clip by the handle and back up to the muzzle (approx 3 barrel lengths of line)
There is nothing inherently wrong with the crossbow,so long as you didn't pay more than about £25, it is just a cheap, beginners gun; heavy spear and thin rubbers limit the range, the line release is not ideal, and it uses screw on heads rather than a tahitian shaft. I think Seac stopped making them a couple of years ago, but parts are interchangeable with most other guns. Beaver are the UK distributor for Seac, but are unlikely to be able to answer any spearfishing related questions!
cheers
dave
www.spearo.co.uk
Yes, Dave is right about the thin rubber, which is the main downside of this model in its standard set up: you may change it with a good 16mm circular band (Dessault are the best), not thicker, cause I'm not very confident about the strength of its trigger mechanism.
Apart this, Dave is right also on the point that the Crossbow can be a good gun for novices: simple, lightweight, with a rail that helps accuracy, with threaded shaft so that you may use it also with a trident for congers and cave fish: interesting gun to start and - why not? - to go on. I don't say it's bad.
I don't use much my Crossbow for a simple reason: it's a very short 50cm, which I tried for cave hunting, but then I realized that for such a short size i prefer pneumatic spearguns or a comanche 60 (yes, I stored tons of spearguns in the past years).
I think I'll give my Crossbow as a birthday gift to my friend Mario, who is bored from windsurf and scuba and wants to try spearfishing. I'm sure he'll have fun with it, as i wish to you too!
Apart this, Dave is right also on the point that the Crossbow can be a good gun for novices: simple, lightweight, with a rail that helps accuracy, with threaded shaft so that you may use it also with a trident for congers and cave fish: interesting gun to start and - why not? - to go on. I don't say it's bad.
I don't use much my Crossbow for a simple reason: it's a very short 50cm, which I tried for cave hunting, but then I realized that for such a short size i prefer pneumatic spearguns or a comanche 60 (yes, I stored tons of spearguns in the past years).
I think I'll give my Crossbow as a birthday gift to my friend Mario, who is bored from windsurf and scuba and wants to try spearfishing. I'm sure he'll have fun with it, as i wish to you too!
Cheers Spagetti, i'm not sure that my gun has the original rubber on it. It looks brand new & still has a coating of white french chalk type preservative dust on it. I am 6'3" tall & weigh 20 stone & I struggled to pull it back, so maybe it has been replaced. Would'nt mind locating a spare spear shaft for it though if anyone knows if they are available in the UK. Or do other makes fit?
I think you can use any shaft on it, length about 120 cm (tip included) for your 80.
I remember that I tried my crossbow 50 with 3 different shafts (two of which with a normal "tail" and without the slide ring), and they all worked.
---UH: how is the wishbone of your gun? On mine, it was a very simple thin iron wire screw-in one. If this is your case too, notice that an articulated stainless steel wishbone (of any brand) would be safer.
---However, go down and have fun: the gun is bought, it's nice and it works, so just enjoy it!
My 2 cents: The best "upgrade" you can make with your speargun is not buying accessories for it, but getting a good feeling with it. If you trust it and if you love it, it will shoot better! I have experienced that trusting your gun improves its accuracy
I remember that I tried my crossbow 50 with 3 different shafts (two of which with a normal "tail" and without the slide ring), and they all worked.
---UH: how is the wishbone of your gun? On mine, it was a very simple thin iron wire screw-in one. If this is your case too, notice that an articulated stainless steel wishbone (of any brand) would be safer.
---However, go down and have fun: the gun is bought, it's nice and it works, so just enjoy it!
My 2 cents: The best "upgrade" you can make with your speargun is not buying accessories for it, but getting a good feeling with it. If you trust it and if you love it, it will shoot better! I have experienced that trusting your gun improves its accuracy
Eventually yes, but if you go with two bands, I suggest them to be no thicker than 14mm (or 9/16") because, again, as far as I remember the trigger mech didn't feel as the strongest as can be.
BTW: Old thread you refreshed. Meanwhile, I've given away my old Crossbow 50 and don't own anymore of this model.