Shampoo: Good Or Bad?

[Paul Kotik]

I've recently been advised by a fairly credible source that shampoo - all shampoo- is bad for the hair, and especially for divers' hair.

This show-biz person told me that when hair models are engaged for shampoo adverts, they're asked not to use any shampoo for months before the shoot. Makes the hair look bad !

The combination of salt water and shampoo is, according to this source, catastrophic. Rinse, she says, after diving. Never shampoo. Conditioner: good. Rub into hair before diving.

Anybody out there informed on this subject?

 

[trux]

Ask Peter Pedersen - he apparently found a solution

 

[Paul Kotik]

Ask Peter Pedersen - he apparently found a solution

Who's Peter Pedersen? How can one contact him?

 

[BennyB]

You mean former world record Peter Pedersen, the first freediver to officially hit 200m in dynamic?

Seriously Paul you need to buy yourself a ladder....

 

[trux]

Who's Peter Pedersen? How can one contact him?

Danish freediver and world recordman (i.e. the first man who did 200m DYF)

For illustration: Peter before (when he still used shampoo) and after (no shampoo whatsover)

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You can contact him right here. His alias is [ame="http://forums.deeperblue.net/member.php?u=2057"]View Profile: Peter P@@AMEPARAM@@View Profile: Peter P</title>@@AMEPARAM@@Peter P[/ame]

 

[Paul Kotik]

Danish freediver and world recordman (i.e. the first man who did 200m DYF)

For illustration: Peter before (when he still used shampoo) and after (no shampoo whatsover)

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You can contact him right here. His alias is Peter P

Oh, come on, guys, be serious ! Really, is there any truth to this idea that shampoo is actually bad for the hair, that our hair would look much better if we never ( or very rarely) shampooed?

I'm especially eager to find out if the thing about hair models not shampooing is true. If it is, that would be pretty convincing.

Have a little compassion for all us guys trying to make a little go a long way !

 

[trux]

Well, originally I've been searching a photo of yourself with wild hair you posted certain time ago, but unfortunately I cannot locate it anywhere. It is a pity because instead of making fun of Peter Pedersen I had ready a nice comment for your photo.

Personally, all models I met were terribly dirty and stinking - I bet they never wash at all. And BTW, what hair exactly do we speak about? I hope we have the same type of hair on mind.

Seriously - I believe that it may be true, but unless you can afford looking like a rasta man or are living within homeless community, it is very unpractical.

 

[jimdoe2you]

Paul, you should really ask Fondueset. He has not washed his hair in 12 years. I have attached a photo and as you can clearly see, his hair is silky smooth!



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[Paul Kotik]

I don't know. I can't tell whether you guys are taking this seriously or not. The point about the poor hygiene of many models rang true, but there's other things I'm not too sure about. Hmmmmm. . .

 

[jimdoe2you]

Paul!!!! Come on!!!!

I am not 100% positive, but I firmly believe if you don't wash your hair, you'll probably develop dreadlocks and at the very least it certainly it will be a dirty and smelly.

P.S. Chris sent me this photo of myself to post here..........:hmm

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[jimdoe2you]

On a serious note now. There is plenty of available info on this subject and believe it or not, ...........your hair will actually go through a greasy, itchy, and smelly stage but then eventually revert back to a natural stage where it cleans itself.

I'm as shocked as most of you who are reading this right now, but what can I say, ......look it up yourself!

Here are two excerpts:

"greasy for 2-3 weeks, then it conditions itself and looks really good. I have heard of many people who don't use shampoo. They wash their hair but only witn water. It does not go smelly and is not covered in bacteria. How did mankind ever manage to survive covered in evil bacteria before shampoo was invented? "

"Saw a program once where they tested this!! the girl was only allowed to wash her hair with water. After six weeks the girl's hair was glossy and all her dandruff had cleared up. Lots of people don't wash their hair with products eg Chris Evans, and their hair is fine. (although is does go though a smelly period until the oils re-adjust to working properly."

Who knew???????

 

[maytag]

Paul,

It's true that too frequent washing will ruin the coat of some breeds of dogs - for example, Bedlington Terriers. Perhaps something similar holds true for humans...

You might check this out: http://community.livejournal.com/no_poo/ and http://www.hintsandthings.co.uk/bathroom/hairtips.htm

I might have to chew some gum just to test the peanut butter trick... Cheers,

 

[iceselkie]

my hair is long, i am in the water A LOT, and i dont shampoo very often. if you shampoo your hair it will strip it of the oils it naturally makes. for people who dont live an aquatic lifestyle, they can accumulate oils and dirt sticks to the oils, that's why they shampoo. it doesn't surprise me that shampoo companies would get models to stop using shampoo, but i doubt they stop brushing, and probably wear a swim cap into the pool (if they swim). frequent brushing with a natral bristle brush (eg. boar hair) will distribute the oils making your hair more lustrous and less prone to breakage.
so ,get your hair wet with fresh water before you swim, rinse after, naturally dry, and a good dose of jojoba oil or coconut oil is all you need to soften up crusty diver hair now and then ..(not VO5)

 

[eckaflx]

Hi,

I haven't washed my hair with any form of detergent in over five years now.
It's true - you go through about a month or two of it being a bit nasty then it starts to self clean. My hair doesn't smell and is nice and strong. I don't believe conditioner is necessary either. Natural oils in your scalp keep it in good condition. I just rinse with water after going in the sea/pools/lakes.
Think about it.....hair isn't meant to have chemicals put on it three times a week.

Ed

 

[deep thinker]

I also have long hair and I must say that come to think of it, its in its best condition during December when I dive every day and just rinse it with clean water after a dive, theres not really running water in the houses so its rather a mission to fetch water to wash it so just let it be for those 3 weeks of holiday...
Here are some pics of the area I visit every year.
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[Waterenthusiast]

Hi,
I always thought that letting the body regulate itself is the best solution. I also have problems with my hair, and the use of shampoo after every pool session has not really helped me at all. In fact, since i began training 3 times a week in a pool and therefore wash my hair more often, i've seen my hair getting greasy a lot quicker. I think i will try out Iceselkie's advise from now on and only rinse my hair with water. Luckily for my girlfrend she is not going to be aware of the first stinky weeks

 

[Paul Kotik]

On a serious note now. There is plenty of available info on this subject and believe it or not, ...........your hair will actually go through a greasy, itchy, and smelly stage but then eventually revert back to a natural stage where it cleans itself.

I'm as shocked as most of you who are reading this right now, but what can I say, ......look it up yourself!

Here are two excerpts:

"greasy for 2-3 weeks, then it conditions itself and looks really good. I have heard of many people who don't use shampoo. They wash their hair but only witn water. It does not go smelly and is not covered in bacteria. How did mankind ever manage to survive covered in evil bacteria before shampoo was invented? "



"Saw a program once where they tested this!! the girl was only allowed to wash her hair with water. After six weeks the girl's hair was glossy and all her dandruff had cleared up. Lots of people don't wash their hair with products eg Chris Evans, and their hair is fine. (although is does go though a smelly period until the oils re-adjust to working properly."

Who knew???????

This seems exactly relevant to the question at hand. This is the idea, that our hair knows how to take care of itself. Makes sense - we couldn't have smelled all that bad, else we wouldn't exist.

Our ancestors wouldn't have been able to force themselves to carry out the reproductive act.

I've read that this is the evolutionary 'reason' why human sex drive is so powerful. Have you noticed it's much stronger than is need be? Wouldn't we still be mating and reproducing if our sex drive were, say, half as strong as it is? A quarter as strong? One tenth as strong?

We can understand the puzzling force of our sex drive when we consider that for most of human history, even the social elites had the grooming and personal hygiene of today's homeless person. They stank, had rotten teeth, yeast and other infections in all dark, moist places and didn't much care about laundering colors and whites seperately. Two hundred years ago, a fellow needed a very powerful sex drive indeed to overcome Jane's funk, and Jane needed one to bear it.

 

[mn.psyc]

This seems exactly relevant to the question at hand. This is the idea, that our hair knows how to take care of itself. Makes sense - we couldn't have smelled all that bad, else we wouldn't exist.

Our ancestors wouldn't have been able to force themselves to carry out the reproductive act.

I've read that this is the evolutionary 'reason' why human sex drive is so powerful. Have you noticed it's much stronger than is need be? Wouldn't we still be mating and reproducing if our sex drive were, say, half as strong as it is? A quarter as strong? One tenth as strong?

We can understand the puzzling force of our sex drive when we consider that for most of human history, even the social elites had the grooming and personal hygiene of today's homeless person. They stank, had rotten teeth, yeast and other infections in all dark, moist places and didn't much care about laundering colors and whites seperately. Two hundred years ago, a fellow needed a very powerful sex drive indeed to overcome Jane's funk, and Jane needed one to bear it.

rofl rofl rofl great point there....
So what about soap and bathing lotions?

 

[Jon]

I've heard that shampooing BEFORE you go into a swimming pool is supposed to be better for your hair- inhibits the attack of chlorine.

I wouldn't be able to say for sure since my hair is going the way of Peter P.'s


Jon

 

[Paul Kotik]

I've heard that shampooing BEFORE you go into a swimming pool is supposed to be better for your hair- inhibits the attack of chlorine.

I wouldn't be able to say for sure since my hair is going the way of Peter P.'s


Jon

The person who triggered this whole inquiry has now recommended a) shampoo no more than once a month, b) rinse hair thoroughly in warm water every time one bathes, and c) apply conditioner generously before going into salt water or chlorinated water.

This person's hair is spectacular, so there's a little credibility here.