Slip Tip

[apnoeandi]

Hello im new in this Forum!
I have 2 question!
What is a Slip Tip and when i can used it!
What is a brakeaway for the line and how to used it!
By a Tuna Gun is the Shootlinene on the shaft the shootline on the gun and the floatline on the handle of the gun is this right?when i used a reel is a floatline although essential?
sorry for my bad englisch
greetings apnoeandi

 

[jordan hamilton]

Hello,
The Slip Tip is a style of spear tip which will separate -"sliped out" after penetration into the flesh on the fish. It is still connected with the spear by a stainless steel cable or dyneema line. This way the detachment on the slip tip will prevent from potensional bending of the spear. The end of the spear's tab is usualy connected with the shooting line ,which ends up with elongated rubber plug, known as "brake away plug" attached to the stock on the gun. When the fish is "hit" the slip tip will separate (and remain in the fish body) but still be conected with the spear (through the cable) and the end of the shootig line will pull and free the brake away plug (from its eyelet ) which is attached to the "float line" and to the actual float at the surface.It is used primarily for hunting large game fish. This way the spear gun will remain safe with the diver. When using a reel it is not necessary to have float line. If you like to see better this configuration ,check my web site and go to the page " Building the Gun" here you can see the different parts of this system.
www.hamiltonspearguns.com
Jordan

 

[apnoeandi]

Hello!
thank you for this great Threat! you´r HP is very nice now i now what a slip tip is!
greetings apnoeandi

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Here are some example of slip tips. An adapter threads onto the end of a threaded shaft, and the tip slides off the adapter and toggles on the far side or inside the fish. The cable or Spectra from the tip goes through a slide ring on the shaft, and that ring hits the back end of the adapter and keeps the tip connected to the shaft.

The breakaway system has nothing to do with a slip tip, and could be used even if the shaft had a flopper or twin barbs.

The most reliable, cheapest, and easiest breakaway system is known as the Hawaiian breakaway. The shooting line has a loop in the rear end a few inches from the line release. A loop of bungee cord goes from the shooting line over the line release and holds it tight. The clip on the float line is attached to the loop in the end of the shooting line. When the trigger is pulled, the bungee comes off the line release and the gun is out of the chain.

 

[harpune1]

he andy check mal deine pm

 

[apnoeandi]

Hello thank you for the nice photos is a cool system!!!!
is the cable from the slip tip a part of the shoot line or end it in the adapter??
greetings apnoeandi

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Hello thank you for the nice photos is a cool system!!!!
is the cable from the slip tip a part of the shoot line or end it in the adapter??
greetings apnoeandi

Neither. Here is another photo that might help. The tip is held on the adapter with scotch tape simply so they won't get separated in my spares box, but don't let that consuse you.

Notice that the cable goes through a hole in the slide ring and has a crimp on the read end.The fish pulls the tip off the adapter, and then cable is pulled though the hole in the slide ring until it hits the crimp , and the slide ring is pulled against the shoulder on the back of the adapter.

The shooting line is connected to a hole in the rear of the shaft, and not to the slip tip cable. The shaft serves as the connection between the two.

And then as described earlier, the rear end of the shooting line is attached to the float line, or to the reel line if using a reel.

 

[apnoeandi]

AH! thank you! where i can order a Slip Tip or can i make a tip by my self(DIY)
and where i can order a floatline an a clip for it?
greetings apnoeandi

 

[Bill McIntyre]

AH! thank you! where i can order a Slip Tip or can i make a tip by my self(DIY)
and where i can order a floatline an a clip for it?
greetings apnoeandi

If you have a full machine shop, you might be able to make your own tip, but I doubt it. There are all sorts of considerations going into the interface between adapter and tip so that it doesn't come off in flight, but does come off easily in a fish. Also, in a good tip, the adapter bottoms out in the hole in the rear of the tip so that if you hit a rock, the force is absorbed there rather than splitting out the rear skirt of the tip where it sits on the shoulder of the adapter.

Before you buy a tip, you should consider whether you really need one. Do you shoot large fish that could bend a shaft and use the shaft leverage to enlarge the hole and pull a standard barb out? Also, do you often shoot fish with rocks behind them? Shooting rocks with slip tips can get very expensive very quickly.

But assuming you need one, what diameter is your shaft, and what thread does it have? Most 3/8" and 5/16" shafts have a 24" thread, while most 9/32" shafts and metric sized Euro gun shafts have a 6 mm thread. You need to order a tip with a slide ring to fit your shaft, and an adapter to fit your threads.

Then there is the question of steel cable vs. Spectra. I prefer Spectra because it doesn't cut the flesh and enlarge the hole in the fish as much as cable, and because it never gets kinked and doesn't cause as much resistance to the shot. But if you shoot fish that usually go down into sharp coral, you might want cable.

I could go on a on about various brands of tips, but I think it would be best if I keep it simple and just mention a couple of very good choices.

If you want cable, these tips come with a choice of adapters and slide rings for 5/16" and 9/32" shafts. The tips themselves are 5/16" in diameter.

http://www.aimritehawaii.com/accessories.php

If you want Spectra, my choice would be tips from Masahiro Mori,

morifish@aol.co. Unfortunately, he doesn't have a web site.

I have two tips from him, shown below. One is 11/32" diameter, and has threads and a slide ring for a 5/16" shaft. The other is 9/32" in diameter, and has 6 mm threads and a slide ring for 9/32" shafts. In the next couple of weeks he is coming out with a 5/16" diameter tip, which will also have adapter and slide ring for 5/16" shafts.

The highest quality float line I have seen is this one made by Neptonics. It has bulletproof hardware and a 1400 pound spectra line though the middle of the tubing. You could get it from Neptonics, but Aimrite is also carrying it, and Aimrite also has very high quality inflatable floats.

http://www.aimritehawaii.com/floats.php

A cheaper alternative is the orange foam filled Rob Allen float line offered at

https://www.flfreedivers.com/

Click on floats. Also there, you will see some nice hard foam floats by Rob Allen.

I hope this wasn't too much information all at once.

 

[apnoeandi]

OK! THANK YOU for the help!!!
greetings apnoeandi

 

[harpune1]

he take a look at www.subchandlers.com they have floatline from riffe and something similiar to a sliptip in their program and thei are based in france, since ordering from usa is a pain in the a##, i guess!