SlipTip questions...

[settingsteel]

My experience with slip tips is very limited as here in our Miami waters we don't use them too often (at least I don't).

I have a few questions, generally speaking

once a fish is shot,
-do you normally proceed to the boat and take the fish off or do you generally do it in the water?

-how do you usually take the fish off? turn the tip around, place in ring and pull or do you unscrew the adapter and pull that end out? (did that make any sense?)
-Do you use cable or dyneema, why?

and finally
-what is the average length of cable or dyneema on the slip tip? (is their even an average?)

ohhh and just one more is a slip tip a compound word or 2 words?

 

[Mr. X]

...ohhh and just one more is a slip tip a compound word or 2 words?

roflI'm thinking, "slip tip" is probably the most English way but slip-tip would be easier to understand at a glance. Create your own precedent. As the US guide to English, Strunk & White, suggests about pronounciation, be bold and confident and it won't matter. (That's probably why American's say words differently to Brits!).

 

[strangelove]

X

I much rather use dyneema instead of cable. The cable may be great for huge fish but for the type of fish I shoot the dyneema rope works best (IMO).

 

[jimy286]

Dynema is lighter on the spear and more streamed line.

Cable is good if you have to cut it out of the fish you will not mess it up with the knife.
plus if them shraks get hold of it they will not bite it off and eat it.

Have a look at the RA slip tube.... Rob Allen spearguns, railguns and other spearfishing and freediving accessories.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

once a fish is shot,
-do you normally proceed to the boat and take the fish off or do you generally do it in the water?

I always do it in the boat, but then I would remove a Hawaiian shaft in the boat too, because the fish I shoot are too big to wear around on a stringer.

-how do you usually take the fish off? turn the tip around, place in ring and pull or do you unscrew the adapter and pull that end out? (did that make any sense?)

Neither. The usual way is to detach the shooting line from the reel line or float line, push the shaft through the fish in the direction it entered, and pull the shooting line through the fish too.

Where it gets interesting is if the tip is toggled inside the fish rather than on the far side. Then its surgery, trying to feel where the tip is with your fingers, and using a knife to bring it out in the best direction.

-Do you use cable or dyneema, why?

I use Spectra (dynema) because it doesn't kink and doesn't cause as much drag as cable. However, I'm not shooting fish that go back in caves in sharp coral or rocks. Also, the tip has to be designed for attaching Spectra in the first place. Not all tips will accept it.

and finally
-what is the average length of cable or dyneema on the slip tip? (is their even an average?)

Enough to be tucked under the bands to hold it on after the gun is cocked, and at least as long as the thickness of the biggest fish you will shoot so that the shaft is able to come back out of the fish with the tip on the other side.

ohhh and just one more is a slip tip a compound word or 2 words?

Beats me.

 

[settingsteel]

thanks for the input guys!

 

[alexrom1207]

ohhh and just one more is a slip tip a compound word or 2 words?

two words, or so says google.

 

[RydDragyn]

Anecdotally, I've noticed that the longer the cable/dyneema the easier it is for the tip to detach.

And as Bill pointed out, environment makes a big difference for dyneema vs. cable. The dyneema on my crist sliptip got shredded in Sea of Cortez reefs. Cable on my ice pick held up fine, of course. Another thing I've noticed is that the sharp edge of mori/tandem sliderings tends to kink and cut into cable (especially coated cable), whereas dyneema's fine.

I've actually used nothing but a sliptip for the last 3 months, even on the reefs, and grown fond of it because the chances of losing a fish of ANY size are drastically reduced. Perhaps for something deeply holed up this wouldn't be true, but then again I'm not shooting big grouper.

 

[settingsteel]

Thx RD, and welcome to DB:friday

 

[irtrogdor]

I use a mori sliptip and i must say that its the best tip i've ever used. It has a thick cable on it which is good in case you break a bone on entry and have sharp stuff inside there... I've actually lost a tip because of that I nailed a large AJ and he took off. TUG... speartip was gone... so sad.