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Some Key Stats on DeeperBlue.com - Where Does Everyone Come From

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Stephan Whelan

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I get asked quite often where the users of DB come from and what some of our key statistics are. I've taken the following details from our Media Kit that we use. It's an aggregate of both the editorial side of DB (http://www.deeperblue.com) and the Forums (http://forums.deeperblue.com) but the split is roughly 50/50 when it comes to traffic split.

Any surprises in there for people?



 
I am sorely disappointed in our outreach to those freedivers in Antarctica. We should hoist the Blue Peter (naval flag for repair on board)forum for them.
 
I'm surprised that 33% come from North America. It doesn't feel that way.

Do those numbers represent people who actually post, or just those who visit and read?
 
I'm surprised that 33% come from North America. It doesn't feel that way.

Do those numbers represent people who actually post, or just those who visit and read?
Bill - it represents all traffic across both editorial and forums, as well as members and readers. We have a significant NA audience, just the regular posters have fallen away over the years.
 
1/3 of the people may be North American... but I'd say 60% of the talent and hardcore divers / spearfishermen are European. Europe knows what apnea is. It's a 10 min discussion explaining it over here in the "west", unless you live in a warm coastal community.

I tend to think that most of the American population here are spearfishermen and don't post much... Just read and then go jump in the ocean with a gun, stringer and buoy every weekend!

NA has a decent pool contingent... But with the US legal system, they force depth guys to leave the continent to pursue their aspirations.

Maybe if ppl weren't so afraid of a lawsuit, NA divers could practice depth competitions more often locally and dive safer.

You need a critical mass of at least 5-6 regular depth guys and access to at least 25m for empty lung and 60m full to really build a contingent. This often means a boat.

If I can't get regular depth practice in and conditioned to greater pressures... I'll keep myself entertained with travel spearfishing at 25m or less. Not a lot of need to go deeper than that for most species and terrain.

What I love more than anything.. Is that I can travel anywhere in the world and freedivers / spearfishermen (apneists) are essentially all the same. It transcends geography and language.
 
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Far more than 60% of the hard core talent on this site may well be European, but that is just this site. There are plenty of people who consider themselves to be hard core talented spear fishermen posting on other sites. And regarding apnea spearfishing, in California its the norm. In fact spear fishermen who use scuba get a lot of negative comments on California forums. Its legal, but not highly regarded. And in the last few years, free dive spearfishing is really catching on in Florida, where scuba used to dominate.

I think that a common perception in the US is that this site is the place to go for information on pure free diving, but divers from the US can't relate to the relatively small fish taken by European divers or to the equipment used. In California we commonly shoot 50 to 60 pound fish using large guns, breakaway float lines, and slip tips. When I read the typical equipment question on this site, I don't even know how to answer it. And if I did, it would probably miss the point. Spearos in the US recognize that the Mediterranean Sea is so overfished that it takes great skill to dive very deep for small fish, but they don't envy the guys who have to endure those conditions and they hope it will never get that bad here.

Spearboard used to have most of the hard core California spearos, but the majority of the experienced spearos, including myself, have left over poor moderation issues and formed a new site that is very active. The photo below shows my next door neighbor and two friends with a catch from last summer. I wasn't along, but they brought the fish home and made me weigh them. This is the sort of thing that gets attention on the new site, and its hard for these guys to relate to European spearfishing. And I guess the reverse is true. When I post a trip report here, I might get one reply from Ireland and another from Guernsey. Apparently European spear fishermen can't relate to what we do in the US.


I gather that was all about pure free diving? If so, it just reinforces what I said earlier. The emphasis here is on free diving. Guys in the US are more focused on just shooting nice fish.
 
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@Bill McIntyre - sorry i'm not saying that the majority of posting members are from the US - i'm just giving everyone the stats on the site as a whole and the number of "posters" does not equate to number of "visitors". Our stats above are verified from a number of sources so are accurate.

It's a key difference that people are much more consumers these days than posters. Facebook, Twitter and Blogs have also eroded engagement on forums (making people more passive on forums, more consumers than active posters).

As for US vs European engagement - I personally feel that if US based members who do spend time on here (reading or posting) actually posted more you'd find more people posting in response - unless people post content that interest others people won't engage and continue to only consume.

Also it would be wonderful if all members (staff or not) would help "fly the flag" of DB and encourage people to join and post more. This includes posting on other forums and on social media (if you use it).

This is by far the friendliest forum out there but unless people shout about it with their friends and fellow divers we can't help spread the word...!
 
Great points Bill, and glad you have an international audience
I agree I cannot really relate to US spearo's, but even at that I can relate more so than the freedivers... The odd times I get completely confused by a scuba post here?
Then again, I used to really follow the other regional threads but not so much. There is one french guy that posts videos sparodically and I can relate to them more.
 
One final point on this from me today!

I know for a fact that a truly international audience read these forums (and the main site). They may not be posting but they certainly read.

If there are interesting posts that they want to contribute to then they will
 
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