Speargun Help!!

[theykilledkenny]

:fridayfinally!! i managed to make a working account here!:friday

hi
ive been reading EVERYTHING on this forum for a while now, but somehow couldnt get my account to activate.
im am spearfishing in lebanon, and have a beuchat arka 75.
i want to get a new gun, but not sure which one. i hunt in all kinds of conditions, usually good visibility, all kinds of 'terrain' +bluewater but fish not very big (by your standards). a big fish to me is 3 kg, grouper,bream, garpike, snapper, jacks, all kinds of fish... also bonito, kingfish and dorado etc passing through seasonally.
i want something to take some larger fish ( rarely larger than 15kg) but also the usual from further range. a good allround gun for my conditions. So: a good all round gun for long range on smaller fish, but enough for the occasional 15 kg giant in clear water
i was thinking a 100/110 but not sure... american style guns dont exist here.
what size gun do you think i need????
thanks !!

 

[Marwan]

i would recommend either omer 100 either carbon or cayman HF..

 

[foxfish]

theykilledkenny! unusual name?
Welcome to db glad you persavered, you can trust Marwan for Gear Buying.

 

[HEDS]

Hey , I could also reccomend an Omer gun , i have a 900excaliber , i like it very much and spares/replacement and modification parts are readily available.

 

[theykilledkenny]

thanks for all your answers...
about how much do these guns cost?? (the ones marwan proposed)
is there a big difference between the 110 and the 100???, because i imagine id rather get the 110 to have more of a contrast with my 75...or will the 110 be too big?

foxfish: havent you ever watched south park??

 

[foxfish]

Arrr South Park - yes I watched it once twice many years ago but I am far to busy posting on db nowadays.
Anyhow why dont you do what you know is right - join the dark side - it is you destiny.

 

[Mr. X]

theykilledkenny! unusual name?
Welcome to db glad you persavered, you can trust Marwan for Gear Buying.

Perhaps he was a UN Weapons Inspector? (Or Russian dissident). Oh, I see S.Park :yack
How about a 100/110cm Rob Allen or Rabitech railgun? Omer & Seatec are well regarded & offer several models which were probably refined in the Med.

 

[theykilledkenny]

foxfish: pneumatic??

mr x: no RA or rabitech guns here, ive only seen omer, beuchat, and some cressi pneumatic guns...

so, wats the difference between 100 and 110? (apart from those 10 cm)

 

[Mr. X]

foxfish: pneumatic??

mr x: no RA or rabitech guns here, ive only seen omer, beuchat, and some cressi pneumatic guns...

so, wats the difference between 100 and 110? (apart from those 10 cm)

Foxfish is Darth Mamba man Very powerful.

spearo.co.uk sell some Rabitech gear. You could try contacting RA direct in South Africa via their website: Rob Allen spearguns, railguns and other spearfishing and freediving accessories.. Omer seem to be the spearo company with the most comprehensive & spearo-focused product range. The Cressi Commanche band-gun looks like good value. I think OMD (& maybe Robbo?)often uses a Beauchat band-powered gun.

Longer guns usually have more range & power but are harder to move (& perhaps load), which could be a problem for closer shots. Visibility is often a key consideration.

 

[foxfish]

Mr x that did make me laugh -
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYokLWfqbaU]YouTube - "Ebay" by Weird Al Yankovic[/ame]

theykilledkenny, a mamba is a custom air gun with huge power.

 

[Marwan]

they killled kenny..you could try subprof.com or scubastore.com for reference on prices in the area...
as for the difference between a 100 and a 110..i can see that you are in lebanon, so probably end upo fishing in caves/holes at some point (ideally with the 75), the 100 can help also, but the 110 will be much longer in terms of maneivering and harder to load..are you going to be targetting fish over 15-20kg regularly...( I just took a 20+ kg fish with my omer 100)

 

[Marwan]

there is no such thing as a good all around gun...the 100 is the closest to that in my opinion...if you want a big game gun...rabitech or rob allen 120+ is a choice or go for the wooden/hybrid guns with 3 bands like wong or riffe

 

[strangelove]

OK here is my 2 cents.
The Cayman HF is a great gun, I just got one 110, the handle is very ergonomic and strong, the Line release is nice and strong in stainless steal, the gun feels very light and easy to move around. The muzzle design is great very slim, the reel is very good as well. The overall quality is very good but I notice a one flaw.

1) The barrel is bare aluminum just painted black, I was expecting a sporasub like barrel with a plastic cover, I think that would reduce the noise when shooting, so the coat of paint is probably going to get damage , I hope I don't corrosion problems, I also miss a little hook on the muzzle.

For the 110 I think I would still have picked the HF but for the smaller guns I think I would go with the carbon.

 

[spaghetti]

Don't worry about scratches: there shouldn't be any risk of corrosion on hydroformed anodyzed alluminium. Nobody has reported this kind of issue on thousands of Cayman HF sold so far. Paint will probably tear off, but that will give your gun a sexy, rough look.
Me I'm still looking to buy a 90 and the choice is between these four:
Seatec Gabbiano
Cayman HF2
XXV Gold
Geronimo Pro.
While we're at it, there's an update about the HF2: it will be available from late february, will be a cheaper than the HF but sold without reel. Bad news about the HF2 limited edition camo version: very expensive, about 400 euro! I'm wondering what Marwan will do :t

 

[strangelove]

Bad news about the HF2 limited edition camo version:t

Do you believe in Camo ?

 

[spaghetti]

Do you believe in Camo ?

I believe it helps a little. But not enough to pay 400 Euro for a plastic/alluminium speargun. Omer says the HF2 L.E. camo is a limited edition of collection items. But I don't buy guns for collection. I buy them to hunt my dinner.

 

[Marwan]

Don't worry about scratches: there shouldn't be any risk of corrosion on hydroformed anodyzed alluminium. Nobody has reported this kind of issue on thousands of Cayman HF sold so far. Paint will probably tear off, but that will give your gun a sexy, rough look.
Me I'm still looking to buy a 90 and the choice is between these four:
Seatec Gabbiano
Cayman HF2
XXV Gold
Geronimo Pro.
While we're at it, there's an update about the HF2: it will be available from late february, will be a cheaper than the HF but sold without reel. Bad news about the HF2 limited edition camo version: very expensive, about 400 euro! I'm wondering what Marwan will do :t

You keep saying the Gabbiano is the most accurate gun, yet youre not buing it:head:head cant fiugure it out...
A friend of mine bought the xxv gold recently and i loved that muzzle, i see a cayman HF2 in my future ..what you said is great, i dont like camo and i dont like reels so its even better then what i expected..my birthday is in February..I love presents Hint HINT!!! rofl

 

[theykilledkenny]

i still cant decide: 100 or 110??

does the increase in power and range i get from those extra 10 cm make it worth the extra pain while loading and the worse maneuverability??

how much harder is it to load 110 than 100??

most fish i will shoot will be below 7 kg, but wouldnt it be nice to get some extra power and range from the 110, or is the 100 way enough for those fish??

 

[Pastor]

Dude stick with the 100 it will be a better gun for you. You can shoot very big fish with a 100 I know at least one member who shot a 35KG fish with a 90

 

[theykilledkenny]

wow, that was fast...

so if i get a 100, should i stick with what it came with or get bigger/shorter bands right away??
and how much effective range can i expect?? can i double wrap or will i just end up injuring more than i catch??