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Static cold training and buoyancy

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perow1

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I have been thinking about experementing with cold statics. What I want to accomplish is cold limbs with a lot of vasoconstriction. I have a problem though.

Doing statics without a suit leaves you less buoyant and you tend to get an unfavourable body position. Lying more vertical than horisontal is to me a discomfort wich tends to render in shorter static times. I do not know if lying in a complete horisontal position is easier due to better relaxation or if it is a physiological effect that comes from easier bloodflow to the head.

Still my question is do anyone of you practise cold statics, and in that case are you solving the buoyancy in anyway?

I would also like to hear reports from those of you that are able to pull off long cold statics, do you find a positive effect?
 
Can't help with the rest but is there any rule preventing you from adding some buoyancy to the legs/lower body part by artificial means? (floats, tying your suit to your legs etc.)
 
Maybe just wearing the pants will do the trick. First of all its the arms i want to get cold.
 
I used to have the same problem with a 1.5mm suit. Now I use 5mm pants and 1.5mm suit as a compromise. It sort of works, but not ideal (the pants are too warm)...

I did some statics in a really shallow pool without a suit once and of course had no problem. In a deeper pool I fall into upright position and cannot relax (have to bend the neck to keep airways in water).

I don't think any rule prohibits using floats etc on your feet. Then again, there is the "other performance enhancing" clause, which gives the judge the power to basically ban anything I guess...But as long as you have a reasonably sane judge, you should be ok?

I think for the sort of training you describe it would make most sense to do FRC/Empty lung statics...I'm not sure about the benefits. I've tried it a couple of times, but you would have to do it regularily to draw up any conclusions. I find that I can do 2-3 FRC statics, but after that I get so cold I just cannot relax anymore. I really like the feeling in the middle of the series though...Very relaxing
 
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You are right there Jome, FRC might be the way to go. When doing FRC the body position is straightened. I have to try it out. My problem actually originates from doing most of my WET static training in a fairly warm pool. In that pool i feel no need to wear a suit at all, but since the body position tends to get screwd I now wear a west and short pants to give me at least SOME floatation. One of my problems is exactly what you are describing, not being able to relax my neck. At the end of the static when i have to stuggle, my head/jaw starts trebling a little bit. That´s mostly due to neck position, so I have noticed. Even in a colder pool i would prefer to wear no suit, but than again, the buoyancy!

The main reason for me wanting to try colder statics is my experiments with max statics on the first attempt. My max attempts is dry statics on the first attempt seem to be better when I do them on the cold hard floor than doing them on a soft warmer surface. And in water i feel discomfort if i try to max on the first attempt wearing a suit....
...getting to much heat and here relaxation is a bit harder since it tends to be more of a struggle than with a long preparation. Although on land my first attemt maximum seems to be fairly comparable to my warm up statics..
...or even better.

Thanks again Jome! From reading your posts I consider you a big resource in static theory.
 
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