Static/Dynamic Ratio

[thestefanhansen]

Hi all, I'm new here.

Being a Number Lover I have a question for you all.

What is the ratio between your max static time, and the time you are below water during dynamic with fins?

I hope a lot of people will give a reply to this. Then I'll look at the data and see if there is a correlation. I think it could be useful.

All the best,
Stefan

 

[Kars]

Suggestion: Average the WC results!

For me my ratio is probably pretty off, doing ratio wise a better static then dynamic.pbs 7'-150m.

 

[thestefanhansen]

I already looked at the World Records, but I would like more data to play with.

So what's your max static? And how long were you below water during your max dynamic with fins?

 

[Kars]

static 7'
dyn 150 - about 2'40"

 

[thestefanhansen]

Thanks. I hope more people will give their numbers.

Actually I realize that people might not have their exact time for dynamic with fins, so the ratio could instead be between static (in seconds) and dynamic (in meters).

Kars is 2.8 "seconds/meter".

My own static is 3.40 (dry), but only a disappointing 1.20 in water. My dynamic without fins is 37.5 meters. So with fins I assume it would be about 45 meters. If so, my ratio would be 1.8 "seconds/meter" - using my wet static time.

By the way, any "trick" to get my wet static up to my dry static time?

 

[Simos]

I am afraid you might not get many responses as this has been discussed a lot of times throughout the years - Trux had produced some interesting graphs and stats, not sure if they're online still but try searching on DB and I am sure you'll find some of the old threads with lots of info.

 

[thestefanhansen]

Oh. I see. Thanks. I'll try that. I'm new here, so didn't know.

 

[Simos]

Thanks. I hope more people will give their numbers.

Actually I realize that people might not have their exact time for dynamic with fins, so the ratio could instead be between static (in seconds) and dynamic (in meters).

Kars is 2.8 "seconds/meter".

My own static is 3.40 (dry), but only a disappointing 1.20 in water. My dynamic without fins is 37.5 meters. So with fins I assume it would be about 45 meters. If so, my ratio would be 1.8 "seconds/meter" - using my wet static time.

By the way, any "trick" to get my wet static up to my dry static time?

No trick per se, just need to practice in the water (with a buddy obviously). I've done more holds in th water than dry, hence my wet times are better. Be careful not to breathe in air without realising during dry holds too.

Apart from the obvious and super important safety aspect of practicing in a safe environment with a competent buddy, it also improves your times. Both because you feel more relaxed but also because a buddy can coach you through the hold and even put you in some sort of light trance if they're good.

 

[J Campbell]

@stephanhansen - When you do water breath holds are you wearing a wetsuit? Even a warm pool of 80 degrees F will make you chilly (and thus use up more oxygen) if you are not moving about - and when doing statics you shouldn't be moving at all - your breathe up should be perfectly motion less. Try your wet statics using a wetsuit and a buddy.

 

[thestefanhansen]

Thanks, Mark. No, I'm not using a suit. Just shorts and mask. Oh, I just realize that maybe I shouldn't use the mask.

By the way, my dry static is now 4.15, but I have only done that once. Mostly it's between 2.15 and 3.15, so it's not very consistent. :/

 

[J Campbell]

When you are doing those short ones I'm guessing you are not really relaxed. For long breath holds you MUST be relaxed and properly breathe up.
Before even doing any hold just lay quietly in bed (or float in the pool as the case may be) for several minutes and just loosen you body and mind, breathe slow and moderately deep, don't strain on the breathing, let your thoughts flow as they may. And also during breath hold sessions give yourself several minutes of rest between holds. Also, the first hold of a day will probably not be as good, but as you do more holds they typically get better with each hold, at least for 3 or 4 holds.

 

[thestefanhansen]

Thanks. The "funny thing" about my personal best of 4.15 is that I did it with very little preparation. I was just experimenting with nose breathing, and voila... 4.15. Unfortunately I haven't been able to replicate it.

 

[Bill]

Looks like you're getting some very good answers to the questions. The nose breathing experiment here didn't work. Have to do very specific training for a meet next week then I'll try a bare face and see what happens. Fortunately the training went great yesterday.

 

[LondonPoleSpear]

Im a beginner, currently have a 2:40 static pb and a 50 meter dynamic pb