Stayin' a bit More at DEEP !!!

[SEDATE]

Folks
i many times tested myself in different dept, and find out some result as below,
i need to increase my bottom time and adaptation against water pressure at deep
here ara some results from my study:
at home:

dry static PB' s=6.32 min
wet static PB' s at pool= not tested

in sea :

-4m =4.40 i have done best -ok
-8m =3.17 i have done best -ok
-12m = 2:20 l have done best -ok

-20=0.20 sec -???
-30=0.15 sec...-???
-32=2 sec-??
the problem i need to solve under -20 and -30 oır -15m
why i can not stay more long ? ..i did not added surface to surface diving time..these are the time on a fixed spot staying under sea ...i searched form to dept adaptation, i did not find out any info, any know best technic to adaptation against dept..
my best deep dive =-32 (stayed 1-2 sec in there )
sorry but i wanna be spot staying diver , i like being under, no one there, no peoples, no traffic, no noise, i fell myself fully clean up and relax, meanwhile there is no bla-bla talking my gf in sea , too .. rofl
i like this way livin' ...

 

[marginatus]

i wish i had those botom times!!!
Congrats

 

[SEDATE]

i wish i had those botom times!!!
Congrats

Thnx

i try to find out a way to adapt my body in -15 and -20 , and planing to stay there 3-3.30 min, i do not know it is possible or not? , but i know,
Nothing is impossible!!! rofl

 

[Chefkoch]

Heya sedate, you're hitting a good point there.

First off a few questions on your training:
1.how often do you dive deep?
2. sea or lake?
3. what is your training routine in the pool/lake/sea?
4. do you do negative pressure dives? (dives on neutral lung or empty lung)
5. what is your deepest depth, and how was the equalisation there? Could you still equalise your ears/mask?
6. do you feel some sort of chest squeeze/unease at depth?


I absolutely love going down and staying there for longer, in fact that's exactly what i want. Heck i don't want do go to -80m or anything, i'm happy to hang out at -20/-30m and have an enjoyable time there.
Unfortunately, i live in southern germany, so i only get to the sea once a year. Lakes suck.
In a lake, i would go to -20, @4°C and 2m visibility, close my eyes and hang there for 2mins, but let's face it it IS boring. When i open my eyes, facing that pitch-black mess there i get so pissed and frustrated that i take the first slight contraction as a good excuse to surface again. With eyes closed i can kinda dream me into another, nicer world.
In the sea, i would hang at 30m for little more than a minute, it's much more enjoyable there!

One key point i think is to control the so-called non-chemical triggers influencing the urge to breathe. Yes, it is not only C02 that increases your urge, but also non-chemical factors:

1. psychology - you can sort this out by simply diving a lot, just spend a lot of time out in the sea, going to -20 or so. Fight the little bastard inside you, who - soon or immediately after you've reached your depth - starts getting on your nerves with stuff like: "Hmmm, you know you're a LAND-living mammal, and you NEED air to breathe, don't you? Don't you think it's dangerous to be down here, with 20m of water over your head?" Tell him to piss off, and think to yourself: " OOOOOOOohhhahhaaaaahahahahahaha, babyyyyy, i'm sooooooooooo chilled out and relaxed, others would pay tons of money to get this high, oh yeah. I'm goood, i feel great and i'm strong like all heck, huh. Or similar stuff. sounds stupid here, but makes sense down there.

2. compression of your lung: a compressed lung will signal your breathing centre: ooooops, you better breath buddy, we're running empty down here!-----you can compensate this by doing dives on a neutral lung. just exhale passively (don't foce air out of your lungs), and go down to -5m or so, hang out for a min or so, dive a lane, learn doing stuff on an empty lung. you will gradually get used to the strange feeling of having your lung compressed. i feel that when i'm at -5m on a neutral lung, the squeeze is bigger than what i experience at -45m, i think it simulates something -60ish, but this will vary from person to person, so try it out and see. ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE WATCHING YOU WHEN YOU DO NEGATIVE DIVES!


I'm also learning, and not halfway there, but hey freediving is a process, you get older, more experienced, and you - well - ripe in a way.

Tell us about your experiences, and try to pin down the main factors that are blocking your way.

 

[SEDATE]

Heya sedate, you're hitting a good point there.

First off a few questions on your training:
1.how often do you dive deep?
2. sea or lake?
3. what is your training routine in the pool/lake/sea?
4. do you do negative pressure dives? (dives on neutral lung or empty lung)
5. what is your deepest depth, and how was the equalisation there? Could you still equalise your ears/mask?
6. do you feel some sort of chest squeeze/unease at depth?


I absolutely love going down and staying there for longer, in fact that's exactly what i want. Heck i don't want do go to -80m or anything, i'm happy to hang out at -20/-30m and have an enjoyable time there.
Unfortunately, i live in southern germany, so i only get to the sea once a year. Lakes suck.
In a lake, i would go to -20, @4°C and 2m visibility, close my eyes and hang there for 2mins, but let's face it it IS boring. When i open my eyes, facing that pitch-black mess there i get so pissed and frustrated that i take the first slight contraction as a good excuse to surface again. With eyes closed i can kinda dream me into another, nicer world.
In the sea, i would hang at 30m for little more than a minute, it's much more enjoyable there!

One key point i think is to control the so-called non-chemical triggers influencing the urge to breathe. Yes, it is not only C02 that increases your urge, but also non-chemical factors:

1. psychology - you can sort this out by simply diving a lot, just spend a lot of time out in the sea, going to -20 or so. Fight the little bastard inside you, who - soon or immediately after you've reached your depth - starts getting on your nerves with stuff like: "Hmmm, you know you're a LAND-living mammal, and you NEED air to breathe, don't you? Don't you think it's dangerous to be down here, with 20m of water over your head?" Tell him to piss off, and think to yourself: " OOOOOOOohhhahhaaaaahahahahahaha, babyyyyy, i'm sooooooooooo chilled out and relaxed, others would pay tons of money to get this high, oh yeah. I'm goood, i feel great and i'm strong like all heck, huh. Or similar stuff. sounds stupid here, but makes sense down there.

2. compression of your lung: a compressed lung will signal your breathing centre: ooooops, you better breath buddy, we're running empty down here!-----you can compensate this by doing dives on a neutral lung. just exhale passively (don't foce air out of your lungs), and go down to -5m or so, hang out for a min or so, dive a lane, learn doing stuff on an empty lung. you will gradually get used to the strange feeling of having your lung compressed. i feel that when i'm at -5m on a neutral lung, the squeeze is bigger than what i experience at -45m, i think it simulates something -60ish, but this will vary from person to person, so try it out and see. ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE WATCHING YOU WHEN YOU DO NEGATIVE DIVES!


I'm also learning, and not halfway there, but hey freediving is a process, you get older, more experienced, and you - well - ripe in a way.

Tell us about your experiences, and try to pin down the main factors that are blocking your way.

thnx info,
all summer sesion , i live close to sea shore, just 3-4 months, everyday i am almost in sea, city life and more people makes me crayz, i ll give more info about all que you asked, now i am so bussy, no time to write :head