Tables for dynamics and how many lengths?

[Ms Mer]

I've been trying to incorporate tables into my dynamics to get more out of training and improve my CO2 tolerance, fitness and technique. I swim in a 33m pool. Last night I did approx 28-30 lengths. Around 22 or so of those were with 1min 20 sec rest period at each end then 1 x 33m length. The other 8 lengths were interval drills with others with decreasing rest periods from 30-10 sec.

My question is, how many lengths should I look at doing in a session? Is what I did last night adequate? Training sessions are around 1.5 hrs and we have one lane for the group - which can vary in size from 4 to 14 ish. So I want to get the most I can out of the time.

What other types of sessions could I try that would also be of benefit to me? I realise that it's not always about training hard out and focusing on number of lengths. So are there any periodisation principles to be aware of in freediving training as with other sports (base, build, peak).

 

[baiyoke]

About your last question, I remember this article: Training for freediving

Other mixed good stuf if interested: Freediving - articles, courses, news, stories, equipment, inspiration

 

[Simos]

Maybe you'd be better off using most of the pool time to work on technique rather than CO2 tolerance etc? You could build CO2 tolerance with dry exercises, swimming drills etc...

Unless you are able to do both - do you work on your stroke, glide, turns etc during the session or mainly worry about shortening the rest intervals and making the lengths?

 

[Ms Mer]

Work on all the other stuff as well. Am happy to continue doing tables in dynamics as I can see that it is helping me and I don't think I would get the same benefit just from doing dry tables. I generally do 40-60 mins of my own training then the last 30 min we do group drills with someone calling those from the side of the pool. We are going to start training 30 min earlier soon so that will give extra time also.

I also do stuff on my own on other days focusing on technique using kickboard, snorkel.

 

[Simos]

Work on all the other stuff as well. Am happy to continue doing tables in dynamics as I can see that it is helping me and I don't think I would get the same benefit just from doing dry tables. I generally do 40-60 mins of my own training then the last 30 min we do group drills with someone calling those from the side of the pool. We are going to start training 30 min earlier soon so that will give extra time also.

I also do stuff on my own on other days focusing on technique using kickboard, snorkel.

Sounds like you have an all-rounded training session I actually agree about dry training, some people are reporting great success with dry tables etc but for me wet ones help a lot more.

They just take sooo long.. Having said this I used to do 12 x 25m apnea and trying to reduce the overall time for the whole thing (as you get better recoveries get shorter and shorter) and it really doesn't take that long. Obviously you need a vigilant buddy that also helps with counting down recovery times...

 

[Ms Mer]

Yeah the wet training does take a lot longer, but I figure I'm going to be diving in the water, so the more time I can spend training in it, the better. No problems with having plenty of buddies as we are a sizable group of up to 14 at times and always watch out for each other. I tend to do my own counting, its just easier that way and I use the big timing clock at the pool. My times may be 5 seconds out here and there but over all pretty accurate. It sounds like I am on track then, which is good. Sometimes I focus more on technique and getting in some longer swims, rather than the tables, so am trying to keep it varied so I don't get stuck again, or get bored! Mind you, with the group drills we do, that also keeps the variation in there, as much as we may groan about having to do them LOL.

 

[Simos]

Yeah the wet training does take a lot longer, but I figure I'm going to be diving in the water, so the more time I can spend training in it, the better. No problems with having plenty of buddies as we are a sizable group of up to 14 at times and always watch out for each other. I tend to do my own counting, its just easier that way and I use the big timing clock at the pool. My times may be 5 seconds out here and there but over all pretty accurate. It sounds like I am on track then, which is good. Sometimes I focus more on technique and getting in some longer swims, rather than the tables, so am trying to keep it varied so I don't get stuck again, or get bored! Mind you, with the group drills we do, that also keeps the variation in there, as much as we may groan about having to do them LOL.

which club do you train with? I found that having others worry about the time and count etc makes a difference, you can then just focus on relaxation...

I won't be able to do wet training for a while so I will start with some dreaded dry exercises :-(

 

[Ms Mer]

I train with Lazy Seals in Wellington here in NZ. We buddy up for statics (obviously!) and when we do dynamic drills in the group someone does the timing, but it would not really work when we are each doing our own training sets. Those of us who are doing tables of some sort all manage to keep an eye on our time well enough. Especially when we have a lot of people at training. As I think I mentioned, we only have one lane and we are a mix of freedivers and spearos. If we got that structured with people having to time each others dynamics I think that would not work for everyone. We all manage to work in together and share the lane so that those who are doing tables or long swims and those just swimming with no set training plan all get to swim.

Ah yes dry statics - love and hate them huh! And my favorite (NOT!) are the dry exhales!! LOL

 

[queenx50]

Can I join you for training DYN?


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