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Twice/thrice weekly is usually enough for any specific exercises. less is usually more. Rest and recovery are every bit as important as the excercise itself.
I personally don't see doing both tables in the same week could hurt but then again tables don't do anything for Me... max attempts with short breathe up only have put Me in the 6 min range in weeks.
tables are just way to easy... no pain no gain.
I personally don't see doing both tables in the same week could hurt but then again tables don't do anything for Me... max attempts with short breathe up only have put Me in the 6 min range in weeks.
tables are just way to easy... no pain no gain.
For me, the bes work out to tolerate co2, is table i set up, well actualy no table at all, and you do not need stopwatch to do it... I use it but just for info about breatholds.
The thing is, I do breatholds and counting contractions, for me, the most contractions I ever endurance was 22. So I do next: 5 deep breaths (aprox 15sec) tehen static to 15 contractions (aprox 3min), 5 dees breaths then 15 contractions static again... And like that for 30-40min.
It is hard stuff but I find it like this, if you wann learn how to tolerate hypoxic satte then you must go in hypoxic state, state when you under contractions. The more you under contractions the more tolerance you will develop.
In that trening session I tolerate 15-20min of contractions.
The thing is, I do breatholds and counting contractions, for me, the most contractions I ever endurance was 22. So I do next: 5 deep breaths (aprox 15sec) tehen static to 15 contractions (aprox 3min), 5 dees breaths then 15 contractions static again... And like that for 30-40min.
It is hard stuff but I find it like this, if you wann learn how to tolerate hypoxic satte then you must go in hypoxic state, state when you under contractions. The more you under contractions the more tolerance you will develop.
In that trening session I tolerate 15-20min of contractions.
what's everyone's opinion on this? Sounds like it could work....is it true? Or is this too much for the body? sounds dangerous.....
Why will that be dengerus?? You do the set that you can endurance, forget my set make one of you'r own...
And will it work, it's just one way to find out.
And will it work, it's just one way to find out.
Where are the tables?
Hi everybody,
I'm new to this forum and this is my first post.
This seems to be a wonderful resource and there always seems to be something going on in here!
I would like to start doing some o2/co2 tables. I even downloaded the apnea software(stefan's).
I have one question, though!
Seems like everybody is doing the tables, but, where are the tables?!
Do you just make your own tables, or are there a set of tables that everybody uses, maybe increasing in difficulty?
Thank you all!!
Hi everybody,
I'm new to this forum and this is my first post.
This seems to be a wonderful resource and there always seems to be something going on in here!
I would like to start doing some o2/co2 tables. I even downloaded the apnea software(stefan's).
I have one question, though!
Seems like everybody is doing the tables, but, where are the tables?!
Do you just make your own tables, or are there a set of tables that everybody uses, maybe increasing in difficulty?
Thank you all!!
Well, I do not remember how Stefan's software works, but practically all apnea training programs have already at least some tables predefined. You select one that seems acceptable for your level and try it. If it is too easy, you increase the base time or select a more difficult one. If it is too difficult you select an easier one 
Some programs estimate the appropriate table from your maximal static apnea (for example my Apnea Training Manager [ATM] does it), others have a knob for adjusting the level (ATM has it too), and at others you can edit the table to your liking (that's possible in ATM of course too). The ATM offers the widest choice of different tables, or entire training sessions (consisting of several tables or other exercises) - not only CO2 and O2 tables, but also other types of exercises.
Some programs estimate the appropriate table from your maximal static apnea (for example my Apnea Training Manager [ATM] does it), others have a knob for adjusting the level (ATM has it too), and at others you can edit the table to your liking (that's possible in ATM of course too). The ATM offers the widest choice of different tables, or entire training sessions (consisting of several tables or other exercises) - not only CO2 and O2 tables, but also other types of exercises.
Hi,
Thanks a lot for the information!
I started doing the tables with some values found elesewhere on deeper blue.
The ATM software sounds very good! I tried to register, thoug, but the whole procedure was quite time consuming and I guess I will try again later!
Since you were so helpful, I have some more questions!
1) I started timing myself, while lying on the bed, and have done it a about 5 times now. My first attempt was 2:30, and last night I managed to hold for 4:05. Now I'm very exited with the fast improvement and I hope I can improve steadily. I am a heavy smoker, about a pack a day, and have not done any exercise for about 12 years.(I'm 30).
My question is: Do you think I can improve my breath hold times if i quit smoking? (that will be be added motivation above the obvious health reasons), and if I start to do some cardiovascular exercises(running, etc)?
2)In my apartment complex, we have a pool, it's only about 16m long. I can manage to do 2 lenghts under the water max at the moment. I want to train there everyday. Any ideas about how I should go about increasing my dynamic distance?
3) When in the pool, I do struggle a bit to stay under the water! Will waits allow me to swim farther?
Thanks a lot again. The apnea bug has bitten me and its great to have this forum!
Thanks a lot for the information!
I started doing the tables with some values found elesewhere on deeper blue.
The ATM software sounds very good! I tried to register, thoug, but the whole procedure was quite time consuming and I guess I will try again later!
Since you were so helpful, I have some more questions!
1) I started timing myself, while lying on the bed, and have done it a about 5 times now. My first attempt was 2:30, and last night I managed to hold for 4:05. Now I'm very exited with the fast improvement and I hope I can improve steadily. I am a heavy smoker, about a pack a day, and have not done any exercise for about 12 years.(I'm 30).
My question is: Do you think I can improve my breath hold times if i quit smoking? (that will be be added motivation above the obvious health reasons), and if I start to do some cardiovascular exercises(running, etc)?
2)In my apartment complex, we have a pool, it's only about 16m long. I can manage to do 2 lenghts under the water max at the moment. I want to train there everyday. Any ideas about how I should go about increasing my dynamic distance?
3) When in the pool, I do struggle a bit to stay under the water! Will waits allow me to swim farther?
Thanks a lot again. The apnea bug has bitten me and its great to have this forum!
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1) In long-term stopping smoking should certainly improve the pulmonary functions. In the short term though, you may experience degradation of performance - the changes in the organism after stopping smoking are important, and also psychics is influenced. Additionally, smokers are usually more tolerant to higher levels of CO2, so the struggle phase of the breath-hold may kick in earlier once you are clean (that's in fact a positive factor for the performance)
2) First of all get a buddy who knows what to do when you black out or loose motoric control, which will happen to you quite likely at some point if you push the limits. And the buddy must watch you closely, permanently, continuously and not doing anything else. Asking someone sitting at the pool side and reading a book, another swimmer, or even a life-guard is absolutely insufficient and we read hear every year about several freedivers who died when training alone in the pool (although they sometimes did ask the life guard to keep an eye on them). Read more about safety in the forum - there are plenty of threads. Starting with the sticky ones on this subforum is definitely a good idea.
As for methods for improvement - you will find some instructions in that thread too. In ATM there are exercises for dynamic apnea too. Or you can buy a good freediving book - like for example the one from Pelizzari. Taking a freediving course is a good idea too.
3) Yes, freedivers do use weights for dynamic apnea, but again only use them if you have a buddy watching you closely.
2) First of all get a buddy who knows what to do when you black out or loose motoric control, which will happen to you quite likely at some point if you push the limits. And the buddy must watch you closely, permanently, continuously and not doing anything else. Asking someone sitting at the pool side and reading a book, another swimmer, or even a life-guard is absolutely insufficient and we read hear every year about several freedivers who died when training alone in the pool (although they sometimes did ask the life guard to keep an eye on them). Read more about safety in the forum - there are plenty of threads. Starting with the sticky ones on this subforum is definitely a good idea.
As for methods for improvement - you will find some instructions in that thread too. In ATM there are exercises for dynamic apnea too. Or you can buy a good freediving book - like for example the one from Pelizzari. Taking a freediving course is a good idea too.
3) Yes, freedivers do use weights for dynamic apnea, but again only use them if you have a buddy watching you closely.