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The sporasub Instinct....
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it's a beatiful toy indeed, so that could be my next rubbergun: I have to replace my old 75 (a spora black viper) with a new one, and I'm in between 4 favourite choices: instinct, omer t20, excalibur carbonium and seatec trb-gabbiano (being a c4 out of my 150 euro maximum budget). every advice welcome on the 4 models, please.
It's always hard to choose if you can't test them in water: italian magazines publish articles about single items, but they're generally indulgent and make no technical comparisons between different products. So you learn how guns are made, but you never get an idea of which one is better for your purpose.
I've been told that american spearfishing magazines DO publish comparison-test articles. Isn't there anything like that published recently about those 4 guns?
I've been told that american spearfishing magazines DO publish comparison-test articles. Isn't there anything like that published recently about those 4 guns?
oops, i forgot the main question for huan: what modifications for accuracy? is it about the rail (or shaft-guide, or how you call it in english)? and what do they say about the "V" shaped device for double rubbers?
HSD speargun test
Hey Spaghetti, scusa mi ero dimenticato but here is the gun test.
Sorry about the fuzziness of the scans, its as big as I could make them without the forum rejecting them.
Mark
Hey Spaghetti, scusa mi ero dimenticato but here is the gun test.
Sorry about the fuzziness of the scans, its as big as I could make them without the forum rejecting them.
Mark
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Hey Murat,
I saw all the excitment on the other thread about the new stuff. I'm a bit busy now but when I get a minute I'll give you and the others a run down of the stuff I tried. The Excalibur 3000 is basically a modified version of an Excalibur speargun that's been tested in Hawaii for 5 years and probably in Europe just as long if not longer since the number one modification done in Hawaii to our Excalibur is a Wendel Ko or Hammerhead open muzzle and a track. The barrel is basically a simple carbon fiber barrel with the recessed shaft guide. These mods just turned stock into an all in one package with the advent of a carbon barrel.
Mark
I saw all the excitment on the other thread about the new stuff. I'm a bit busy now but when I get a minute I'll give you and the others a run down of the stuff I tried. The Excalibur 3000 is basically a modified version of an Excalibur speargun that's been tested in Hawaii for 5 years and probably in Europe just as long if not longer since the number one modification done in Hawaii to our Excalibur is a Wendel Ko or Hammerhead open muzzle and a track. The barrel is basically a simple carbon fiber barrel with the recessed shaft guide. These mods just turned stock into an all in one package with the advent of a carbon barrel.
Mark
Hey Mark when are the new guns from omer going to be available in the US. Is the Excaliber 3000 only in Carbon or will it be in alluminum to. I would love to try them out. Hint hint. Nah Are you coming out to the hawaiiskindiver expo in 2006. I think Sterling is trying to put one on. Try looking at the hawaiiskindiver website.
kumuhunta said:
Hey kumuhunta, the new gun is only coming in carbon...its an upgraded Excalibur Alum. that replaces the old Exc. Carbonium. By the way we're coming to the show in Hawaii for sure, could not miss that one, we might have to stop on the Big Island for some hunting before or after the show!
Mark
its too bad they did not made elliptical and ballasted carbon barell. If they did that would be superior speargun indeed. Probably production cost put them off..... :waterwork But there are some people willing to pay for such gun.
Seems seatec gabbiano and X-fire is still alone on their tracks...
Seems seatec gabbiano and X-fire is still alone on their tracks...
I think omer should come out with an open muzle aluminum guns for us poor guys that cant afford the carbon stuff. besides my gear takes a beating on my kayak and in my truck. My 75 omer excaliber (aluminum barrel) has lasted me about 7 or 8 years now and is still my favorite gun. Modified it of course to a daryl wong open muzzle with 2 amber bands each 14 to 16 inches in length. Easy to swing and deadly accurate.
carbon barell and alluminium barell guns uses same muzles, so you can change closed muzzle of alluminum barell gun with an open muzzle one. It won't take more than 3 minutes to change the muzzles. Muzzle is cheap to replace 
but you should also change bands or ask if you can get one with open muzzle and circular bands instead of closed muzzle and screw in bands.
but you should also change bands or ask if you can get one with open muzzle and circular bands instead of closed muzzle and screw in bands. 
IMHO, magazine gun tests tend to be either indulgent or lack technical background or yet are subjective, or all of them at the same time :ko . Take it from someone in the trade: journalist and spearfishing manufacturer consultant. I've been asked many times to write articles like that, but I always refused because either 1) you can't really write the product serious shortcomings; or 2) you can't get a suitable test bank. When much, I do some market presentation, always quoting manufacturers remarks (after croping out the BS) :ban .
The Instinct looks pretty cool, but not really new, except for the muzzle, which was more a clever solution to sell the gun without modifications in all world markets. Why not new? Have you ever heard of the Sporasub Lazer, from the late 70s?
Come to think of it, less than a handful of manufacturers do really research (technical or empyrical, if with less means) their products. 99% of them copythe others with slight changes to prevent a law suit, or not even that :rcard .
Ted
Rio
The Instinct looks pretty cool, but not really new, except for the muzzle, which was more a clever solution to sell the gun without modifications in all world markets. Why not new? Have you ever heard of the Sporasub Lazer, from the late 70s?
Come to think of it, less than a handful of manufacturers do really research (technical or empyrical, if with less means) their products. 99% of them copythe others with slight changes to prevent a law suit, or not even that :rcard .
Ted
Rio
Sporasub, in my opinion, suffered greatly when they were taken over by Mares. If you want the good stuff, buy from Dessault, I think they still give a s**t about what the customer wants.....Having said that, the Instinct is a good gun, just needs tweaking from it's poorly factory-set mode.
Re: HSD speargun test
I see that they are many changes that has to be done to the sporasub instict carbon fiber... do you know wich specific changes those are?
I just got it and i want to make those changes ASAP before getting it wet.
Regards,
Hey Mark,can you send me those scans to my email? marcelo@contacticapr.com (grazie)
M
I see that they are many changes that has to be done to the sporasub instict carbon fiber... do you know wich specific changes those are?
I just got it and i want to make those changes ASAP before getting it wet.
Regards,
Hey Mark,can you send me those scans to my email? marcelo@contacticapr.com (grazie)
M