Hello! I am new to freediving and will be doing my AIDA** course in Greece in 1 months time. I have been practising my breath holds by lying on my bed and doing CO2 then O2 tables. At the end of the O2 table I held my breath for 3 and a half minutes which was longer then planned as I was watching the TV and not the clock! Is it safe to train alone like this? Abbi
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training alone (on land!)
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Hi Dreamer,
Welcome to DB!
I have been doing the same thing for about a year. I live alone and do most things alone. There have been a few times I felt unaccountably dizzy/nauseous after my dry static sessions - kind of a 'brownout' rather than a blackout. Those episodes were disconcerting, and I think if possible, it is probably safer to do dry statics if there are others around who can help you if you need it. Jon, Naiad and others have posted some really good tips about how to minimize risks when practicing statics - for example, not using nose plugs.
best,
Welcome to DB!
I have been doing the same thing for about a year. I live alone and do most things alone. There have been a few times I felt unaccountably dizzy/nauseous after my dry static sessions - kind of a 'brownout' rather than a blackout. Those episodes were disconcerting, and I think if possible, it is probably safer to do dry statics if there are others around who can help you if you need it. Jon, Naiad and others have posted some really good tips about how to minimize risks when practicing statics - for example, not using nose plugs.
best,
Hi Dreamer,
WaterRat here.
I prefer wet, but sometimes do dry. I started serious Freedive stuff dry as a teenager when I had no idea this was a sport that people did. But I knew I liked it, even if it meant I was weird.
Folks where I live are scared ever since I mentioned that unsupervised seven minutes done in the hot tub--AND WELL SO!!!
I will have the pool frequently for the rest of the summer--BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: If you're training alone, I'd advise you do what I'll do--TRAIN DRY. 'Cause soon I won't have the pool regularly. The swim team'll have that time, and I will have only weekends. I'm unsure they'll let me dive. Boy, *7* has not been MY lucky Number!
The Good Lord will provide something--He ALWAYS does. I have a potential dive buddy, meaning I can train wet--alot more--if this buddy's schedule is tight with mine. I will not be doing long statics wet anymore. NOT ALONE. If Rima becomes my regular buddy, that could change the picture.
WaterRat
xsaul@kdsi.net <This is especially with the higher Numbers and larger chance of BO>
WaterRat here.
I prefer wet, but sometimes do dry. I started serious Freedive stuff dry as a teenager when I had no idea this was a sport that people did. But I knew I liked it, even if it meant I was weird.
Folks where I live are scared ever since I mentioned that unsupervised seven minutes done in the hot tub--AND WELL SO!!!
I will have the pool frequently for the rest of the summer--BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: If you're training alone, I'd advise you do what I'll do--TRAIN DRY. 'Cause soon I won't have the pool regularly. The swim team'll have that time, and I will have only weekends. I'm unsure they'll let me dive. Boy, *7* has not been MY lucky Number!
The Good Lord will provide something--He ALWAYS does. I have a potential dive buddy, meaning I can train wet--alot more--if this buddy's schedule is tight with mine. I will not be doing long statics wet anymore. NOT ALONE. If Rima becomes my regular buddy, that could change the picture.
WaterRat
xsaul@kdsi.net <This is especially with the higher Numbers and larger chance of BO>
BTW--I have noticed watching the clock messes up long statics, makes them darn near impossible. I only do long ones when I'm not watching, and I accidently see the clock afterwards! Then I see I did a long one.
WaterRat
xsaul@kdsi.net
WaterRat
xsaul@kdsi.net
Thanks for the replies! I also tried some uphill swimming in my local pool, but afterwards thought maybe I should have told the life guard what I was doing? If I told the lifeguard would it be safe to do that without a buddy? I was basically swimming 50m breathing every 5 strokes, then 50m every 6 strokes....up to every 8 strokes when my arms and legs became a bit heavy and fatigued so I stopped.... I need a buddy! I live in Cardiff and only know some scuba divers...
http://forums.deeperblue.net/safety/69746-dry-apnea-safety.html
I don't think you should be doing any pool training without a buddy who has had freediving safety training.
Hope you find some freedivers to train with - maybe if you post in the 'Find a Buddy & Places to Dive' section, someone will reply.
Lucia
I don't think you should be doing any pool training without a buddy who has had freediving safety training.
Hope you find some freedivers to train with - maybe if you post in the 'Find a Buddy & Places to Dive' section, someone will reply.
Lucia
I keep telling myself before I fall asleep, "I want to dream about freediving tonight, and REMEMBER it in the morning." According to an article I read, this is supposed to work. It doesn't. Grrrrr... Oh, and I do my dry statics in bed as well (mostly CO2 tables, since I'm trying to improve my CO2 tolerance), and I do it with a noseclip. My contractions get SO bad, I've never even gotten CLOSE to having to worry about blacking out, since they're the reason I always give in.
Todd (who is apparently going for some kind of record for having the lead article for the longest period of time!)
Todd (who is apparently going for some kind of record for having the lead article for the longest period of time!)
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Hey DiverTodd! How long can you safely ignore contractions before you black out??? I ignore them for about 30 seconds but it is torture I agree. When I did 3.5 mins I had been doing CO2 then O2 tables for an hour, so I guess my body was in the zone as it were. My contractions started just after 3 mins. I really am a beginner at all this, but I guess I will learn more in Greece when I do my AIDA** with Emma Farrell!
Abbi
Abbi
Hi.
I Can Not Tell If If Thats Safe As I Am Not Sure, But Can You Tell Me Where To Find These Tables. I Have Looked But Never Seem To Find Them.
Thank You
Claire
I Can Not Tell If If Thats Safe As I Am Not Sure, But Can You Tell Me Where To Find These Tables. I Have Looked But Never Seem To Find Them.
Thank You
Claire
Contractions are not an indicator of when you are going to black out. It is possible to ignore minutes of contractions and finish OK, or black out without getting any.
The most contractions I've managed to endure was 30, and that was VERY rough. Actually, that was during an apnea walk. When I'm very, VERY relaxed, my contractions will usually start at the 2 min mark, like clockwork. I was REALLY surprised during Martin's course in June, when, while doing static apnea in the pool, on my last one my first contraction didn't hit until 2:30! 
Todd
Todd
You surely are NOT!!! I do it too. Dream of tropical fish, and dream of Freediving to awake still holding my breath. I have dreamed I was at World's in Vancouver--and did an 8:37 in Static. Funny. The entire Comp was dry. And Static was all they could have--LOL!
I have to have a vivid imagination. I'm limited to the YMCA swimming pool for diving, and I bout dive. That's very brief periods underwater. I need to do it that way, because I don't have a buddy. I'm finding that while the thrill seeker who wants big Numbers can't have her way, the other side of me that wants a nice, relaxing dive session can. I don't need to break one minute under the surface to satisfy her.
WaterRat
xsaul@kdsi.net <It really is a pleasure to have my PC back in working order so's I can talk to y'alls. I gotta get on my Novel research, though. My characters are Freedivers too--of course. At least some of them>
I have to have a vivid imagination. I'm limited to the YMCA swimming pool for diving, and I bout dive. That's very brief periods underwater. I need to do it that way, because I don't have a buddy. I'm finding that while the thrill seeker who wants big Numbers can't have her way, the other side of me that wants a nice, relaxing dive session can. I don't need to break one minute under the surface to satisfy her.
WaterRat
xsaul@kdsi.net <It really is a pleasure to have my PC back in working order so's I can talk to y'alls. I gotta get on my Novel research, though. My characters are Freedivers too--of course. At least some of them>
This is my first thread on deeper blue........ i have never been on a forum before and didn't really even know what to do! I have been so pleased that people replied to my question! I am very touched, and very excited to be a part of the freediving world....... Abbi xxxxxxxx
Here's to freediving dreams!!!!!!! :friday
Here's to freediving dreams!!!!!!! :friday
I'm tickled to find other WOMEN! Most of my Freedive Netpals are Men. Nothing against the male gender, mind you, I was married to one of the finest men I ever knew--for 18 years. I'm a new widow. It feels good to get my mind off my pain for awhile and just talk about dreamin' about tropical fish and doin' 8:37 in Static at World's and silly fun stuff. I've never actually competed beyond the Church Camp underwater swim and the high school swim team and the Camp Okobojii Polar Bear Challenge (I made that a Freedive Event) and the YMCA Cross-Country Challenge. Only some of this is Freediving, and I'm not really that competitive by nature. Or that good at it. I just like a thrill once in a while (why I dreamed of the 8:37). Or a smooth and relaxing experience. I have lots more of the latter--and it suits me well. Too many thrills would be too stimulating. I like relaxation. I do Yoga.
You are MOST welcome to continue THIS discussion, Abbi.
Reba
WaterRat <We're tickled to have YOU aboard>
You are MOST welcome to continue THIS discussion, Abbi.
Reba
WaterRat <We're tickled to have YOU aboard>
I would advise you to keep your solitary diving-related activities strictly OUT-OF-WATER. Diving without a buddy is always a bad idea if you're planning on pushing your limits. Out of water there is nothing wrong with practicing breath-holds, but pay attention to yourself and make sure you don't over do it. Any headaches or dizziness is a sign that you should stop for awhile. Make sure you do some breath-up excercises in between- and the breath-ups should take up the majority of the exercise.
Hmm. I'll try that. Very soon (Starting later this month) I'll be relegated to land except on weekends (and then usually just Saturdays) by my schedule. Mine and the YMCA's.
It's been a long time since I did it regularly on land. Will take some getting used to. But doing it regularly in H20 required an adjustment also.
I hate stopwatches, but I'll adjust.
It's that or quit. How does a dolphin quit being a dolphin???
WaterRat
It's been a long time since I did it regularly on land. Will take some getting used to. But doing it regularly in H20 required an adjustment also.
I hate stopwatches, but I'll adjust.
It's that or quit. How does a dolphin quit being a dolphin???
WaterRat