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Use of Monofin with a bad back

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Hello everyone,

My name is Mark and am still relatively new to freediving.
Yesterday at a pool practice session I had my first experience with a Monofin and really liked it. It felt more relax & natural then stereo fins and the speed you can get out of one is just awesome.

I am in the market for a new fin/fins and leaning towards getting a Monofin now, however I do have arthritis in my lower back and am not sure if switching to a Monofin would aggravate my back more so then stereo fins.

Can anyone tell me if a Monofin strains your back more the stereo fins?

Thanks!!
 
With "proper" technique, you will flex the spine and flex the back.

It COULD strengthen it!

You can also use a knee-kick instead of a "dolphin" / classical monofin kick which uses more quad and less core / torso / back.
 
Thanks Apneaddict.
I tend to agree that it would strengthen the muscles, probably more evenly then with stereo fins. Wondering about the spine itself...
 
Well, the risk is that bad technique can do more harm than good, especially in the beginning... I exited the pool a couple of times with pain in my lower back, when I screwed up the technique (e.g. using the legs too much). Better be careful, it would be probably advisable to have some sessions with someone who can help you with the technique. Have fun and take care!
 
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Arthritis is a joint issue, and while proper monofin technique will strengthen the torso and back, muscle strength and joint pain are two different things. Just the same, monofin is a lot of fun and I cannot discourage you from trying it. Borrow one if you can, or buy an inexpensive one to see how it goes. If you back outlasts your feet, you've got it made.
 
Hi Mark, I am no medical expert, nor pretend to know anything about the medical side (I must admit I do not trust the medical profession as a whole, and only trust a few within that profession, alas, why would it have been any different than the rest, right?). My story however may shed some light for you, and hopefully encourage you to "go for it" with a big side of "be extra careful", in my case, I attained both by progressing with a very gradual curve.
I had a very close call to falling through the ceiling of my home while researching in order to run some data wiring for my entertainment system; while I did not fall, avoiding the fall implied overstretching in such a bad position, in a very small space, that I ended with a herniated disk in my lumbar region. Suffice to say that even about three months after the close call, I had a recurrence when trimming my toes that made me fall to the floor incapacitated for about half an hour, without even being able to rotate my body on the floor. Took about one hour before I was able to literally drag myself near a piece of furniture that eventually allowed me to pull myself up minimizing the overwhelming pain on my back, this pain went for weeks where just to sit, I was forced to use the strength of my arms in order to relieve the pain by holding a good portion of my upper body weight, at-all-times.
I discovered pretty quickly that while at the pool, the pain would go away given the body is mostly supported by buoyancy. Owning a monofin at the time seemed like a stupid thing (already owned from years ago, yet had not used it in decades), just undulating with no fins was a terrible ordeal that would bring back the pain. Yet I started by adding a few very soft/slow undulating movements at the end of every swimming (no feet kick, just arms underwater 25 meters in order to feel I would eventually be able to enjoy at least half of what a normal person can enjoy underwater) session, important to do this at the end when you are already warmed up. Pretty soon I found myself asking for at least small body boarding fins, which I bought instead of selling my super stiff monofin. Pretty slowly I eventually started using the fins to undulate slowly, this was "no pain, you gain" situation. Regular small cheap fins were next after a few months, and I eventually bought a medium monofin to create a step before getting back into my hard one.
The disk is not healed, they never heal, yet the strengthening of my back has helped me overcome a seriously handicapping situation to a point where I can now even lift weights of 130 lbs (my wife for a photo session) with very little pain that subsides pretty quickly. I know I will never be back to hundred percent, yet I am already at a good solid 65%, and much like the unattainable monofin seemed before, I may even get back to a hundred eventually.
Perhaps the most important thing you have to keep in mind is to exercise correctly, warm up, push without absolutely no pain, however ridiculously soft it may feel or look, and keep pushing that boundary to your personal limits relentlessly.
Do not jump into a monofin right away, you may hurt yourself, rather build up slowly, and safely without ever straining yourself.
Go for it, become a success story, come back, and tell us about it.
 
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I suffer a bit from sciatica, probably caused by a consumed (not broken) disc between L5/S1. I have no specific problems with my mono, however. Perhaps because I use a soft one ? I have more problems with vertical stress, weight lifting, running on hard ground, or sitting in front of the computer for too long. I don't think that monofinning causes such stress. A good technique certainly helps. I excercise the dolphin kick with small swimming fins (or even barefooted) and indeed gained some improvement. Anyhow, chatting with a competent doctor insn't a bad idea ...
 
I don't have arthritis but as someone who's had some decent back issues over the years, just my thoughts. Monofins are good for strengthening your back and increasing flexibility, however although I'm not an expert, if you have arthritis in your lower back, I think it would cause reduced range of movement and put further stress on your back with an incorrect monofin kick or trying to flex joints in a way they don't want to go. I don't have arthritis but sometimes my back will jam up due to injuries and if I use a mono when it's stiff and sore, I'll pull up worse after. How do you go dolphin kicking with long fins? If you're fine, you may be fine with a mono but I find the monofin does require more strength to move properly in a dolphin kick than bi-fins myself. You'll also find if there's any difference in strength through one side of your back or legs, the mono will want to tilt to one side or the other (Which is good if you're tying for evening up back strength, bad if your back can't move that way well due to an injury- the twisting causes more strain. Bi fins are much more forgiving if you can't put equal strength into a kick due to an injury). Do you have someone who can lend you one to give it a try before you buy one? (If there's no monofin swimmers in your area this is also going to make it much harder to get the right technique. Take it from someone who tried to learn off youtube videos before finding someone to help fix my technique up). Alternatively you could talk to a sports physio or similar and see what they think? An alternative would be one of the new hydrofoils (Like the dol-fin) as they will take less effort to move through the water and therefore stress on your back (I know there's one out there that even scuba divers can use, looks like you can use it with more kick from the knees which you're not meant to do with a traditional mono).
 
Hello everyone,

My name is Mark and am still relatively new to freediving.
Yesterday at a pool practice session I had my first experience with a Monofin and really liked it. It felt more relax & natural then stereo fins and the speed you can get out of one is just awesome.

I am in the market for a new fin/fins and leaning towards getting a Monofin now, however I do have arthritis in my lower back and am not sure if switching to a Monofin would aggravate my back more so then stereo fins.

Can anyone tell me if a Monofin strains your back more the stereo fins?

Thanks!!


Hi Mark. Short answer is it will definitely be more challenging for your lower back than bifins - definitely. But there are potential benefits. I have a HUGE ruptured disk at L5/S1. I say HUGE because that is what the tech wrote - in black magic marker - on the MRI. "There is a HUGE abnormality at L5/S1". It was frickin' HUGE, man. Anyway. Yes - it can be good. But you are going to have to get way into it. Learn the 'release points' in your spine - places that give to much - and the points that don't give enough. You'll want to learn to work with your spine and even all that out - don't let the release points go to far - and don't let the other areas not go far enough. Keep things soft and balanced. Think/feel space between your spine and engage your lower abs. You'll have to watch it all and see how it's playing out.

WITHOUT QUESTION GET A SOFT FIN. Mine are soft and I've been at it for awhile. Unless you are doing serious depth or sprinting - go soft.
Here is a vid of me swimming with mine.

 
Thanks for the input Fondueset. I have both bi fins and a monofin and I have found them equally good/bad for my back. It probably all comes down to having the proper technique and moving fluid through the water. Having done 3 courses and a some coaching sessions (since my original post) I'm on the right track there.
As you mentioned one leg is indeed stronger then the other which makes the monofin harder to keep straight (wish I had time to hit the gym and even that out...)
Anyways thanks for your input.
Oh yeah, maybe it's just my phone and computer but I can't seem to be able to play your video.
 
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