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VA Beach offshore wreck dive

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Mark Laboccetta

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Well, here's a quick little report from last Friday. Dave Eggleton and I played hooky from work and took his boat to a couple little shipwrecks past the Chesapeake Light Tower, within 5 miles or so of there. One was the Ricks in 70ft and the other was the Gulf Hustler in 60ft.

We went to the Gulf Hustler first and anchored up on our first try. We anchored up so efficiently we later couldn't get the wreck anchor out and lost it since I couldn't see well enough to cut it out. It was just a home-made rebar wreck anchor luckily.

There was 40ft of visibility on top and below 35-40ft it got hazy and green. I am familiar with this wreck so I dove down to the bottom hopinh to sneak up on a big tautog. I was a bit off the wreck but I could make out a dark shadow and started directing myself towards it until a big shark's tale came into view. SAND TIGER right in my face 4ft away, 10 footer! It's a really small wreck and in 5-10ft of vis I don't like being so close to any shark, even a gentle giant like a Sand Tiger so since there were only Spadefish and very small AJ's we decided to take a boat ride out to somewhere else. We headed to one mysterious wreck we couldn't find...and then went to another called the Ricks we did find. The water was 80 degrees on top and blue and green as far as VA waters go with a nice 40-50ft of visibility, below the thermocline at 50ft it went down to 20-25ft or so and the temp's were in the high 60's. Optimal VA conditions. The tautogs were all but a few 4-5 pounders and one really big one had seen his share of spearguns so he didn't want to engage in foreplay. Party pooper, I had a 7mm shaft sharp and ready for him too but had just shot a flounder when he popped out of the wreck for a quick look. I was under the washout of the shipwreck in the sand bowl, which by the way is a very broken up trawler only about 80-100ft long, in the eerie but refreshing green clear water, when I started counting big flounder left and right! But before I could concentrate on the flounder underneath me I saw a nice black sea bass about 4lbs which is big for the species. I shot him and came up to the surface and told Dave who was busy trying to stalk a few 30lb amberjacks about what I saw down there. He decided to leave the hunt for the AJ's and the two of us started doing some buddy diving.

Dave had never been to 60ft before and I watched him carefully as he decended. The first few times he didn't see the wreck but then on his third dive he came to the surface and was really excited about what he saw. It's really pretty down there with all the small black sea bass swimming around. I went back down and started shooting a few flounder, I ended up shooting 4 by all 23-26" and lost two others when the barb got sand stuck in between the barb and the shaft wouldn't open back up and I pulled the shaft strait back out of the fish. I know which barb if better for these, the loe profile Omer barbs or my 4 point but didn't have one. We were both using single band 100's.

While I was diving and concentrating on the flounder David spotted the three amberjacks again and dove down for a shot. He got about 30ft and chased them a bit and then stopped, the fish swam back towards him and he shot it nicely in the head. A brief tussle ensued and I figured I'd put another shot in him to make Dave's life easier. We got the fish on the boat, looked at the sea bass and flounder and took a few nice pictures of Dave's fish and called it a day. Flat calm seas and diving on the wrecks off Va Beach freediving is something only a few of us lucky ones get to enjoy since the conditions are rarely so nice.

Mark Laboccetta
 

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Nice report and pictures,would be nice to have that much visability when spearing.Any pictures of the flounder??I know there not as interesting as AJ's but it would be nice to see how they compare with the ones we shoot in the U.K.
 
Hi Glowworm,

Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures of the flounder or the sea bass either. We had a cookout and they tasted good though.
I was the only one with a camera and I usually don't take pictures of myself or my fish. Was just really excited to take pictures of my friend Dave, if you look you'll see he's missing two limbs. Pretty amazing, the most determined person I've ever tought to spearfish. As you say, that vis is nice for our colder waters, highly unusual. Its almost as if someone turned the lights on in a place that's always dark.

Black Sea Bass in fishbase, the line fishing WR is only 8lbs by the way too:
Our Flounder in fishbase:
 
Wow respect to you and Dave.Respect to Dave for achieving a levell of spearing most spearo's can only dream of including myself.Respect to you for teaching him.We shoot flounder and sea bass in the U.K but they are mainly in the 2-4 kg range for bass and a 1.5 k,g flounder is very big.Most of my spearing is only done between the surface and 10 meters so reading reports from you guys shooting in deep water with fantastic vis and huge fish is awe inspiring.A 4kg U.K. sea bass puts up quite a fight when shot so i can't imagine what a big AJ or even tuna would be like...anyway fair play and keep the reports coming.
 
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Thanks for the nice words Glowworm, Dave never ceases to amaze me either. Let me ask you, you said you have the same species there? the same Black Sea Bass we have that's pictured in the link I sent you? It would make sense I guess since the water temps are cold like they are here most of the year. When you say a 4kg sea bass you mean the grey/silver inshore variety right? or do you mean these black ones like we have. Here the true jumbo, what we call "Knot head" sea bass of 2kg or more come from very deep water, typically 80ft or more. But maybe in the UK they're shallower. I'd be curious to know. Amberjacks are easy to shoot and come across, tunas are a different story-both are fun though.

By the way, I have a friend, a good diver named Titus Bradley who lives in Weymouth, I thnk that's in the Dorset Province or near, you wouldn't happen to know him would you. Either way, you can contact him if you want since he's a serious spearo at t1tusjb@hotmail.com

Have a good weekend, Mark
ps-check your karma, everyone deserves some on their birthday :)
 
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Mark:
very nice pictures and all my good vibe to Dave!

Keep on with the nice fishing and posting the reports, it is good to read fishing stories.....ah the memories!

Cheers,

Roberto
 
Mark the sea bass we have in europe looks very similar to your stripped bass without the stripes.They live in both deep and shallow water from 0 -50 meters i guess.Some of the guy's in Dorset shoot them down to 15-20 meters but mainly they are in the 0-10 meter range with all of mine so far this year in the 0-6 meter range.A 15.5 lb bass was shot in 3 meters of water this year as they like to eat shore crabs and small fish on the shore line.The flounders look pretty similar.How do yours taste ours have a sweet flesh :p
I don't know your buddy Titus is he on the forum?? Weymouth is only 8 miles away from my house and we have to drive through there to get to portland.How serious a spearo is he??I've only started again this year after a big absence you now how it goes family,work big knee injury and before you know it you've lost your sea legs.Always looking to learn from anyone who's willing to teach.Just diving with different people is a learning curve and great fun.
Boy i would sure love just to be in the water with big tuna and other pelagic fish let alone the chance to shoot them.No diving this weekend bad weather :waterwork :waterwork
 
Roberto, gracias amigo, creo que ser deficil vivir en Canada con el frio despuez vivir en un lugar mas cerca a contacto con el Mar como en Peru. No te preocupas, quando vamonos a pescar soy feliz a mandar reportajes ycon las fotos tambien!

Glowworm, yes I thought it was unlikely you had black sea bass your way, I think they only live on this side of the Atlantico. I am familiar with the sea bass you guys hunt, it's the winter prey of most spearos, have enjoyed hunting them when I lived in Sardinia when I was younger.
Yes, flounder is delicious any way it's cooked. Definitely drop Titus an email when you get a chance, I think he's doing a surgery residency now or he's working full time so he's diving less also. He's been spearfishing a long time and he's shot some impressive fish in UK waters, huge sea bass, lobster, and he just got back from Azores. By the way, what's your name in case I talk to him, hate to tell him that I was talking to a certain "glow-worm". He might not take me seriously :)
Mark
 
Hey Mark my name is John Cranny for the next time you speak to Titus.Maybe i can lure him back into the water more if we hook up.He can always see whats going on locally under the Dorset spearfishing thread on the spearo board.Keep the big fish stories coming it's great to see big fish and clear water.Flounder fillets shallow fried in a flavoured batter are top notch. :p

Have a good week and keep safe.
 
Hi Mike, it was nice meeting you in Hatteras again and glad you had fun.
With all those big land lords everywhere you'd figure there would be a few fat tenants too, surprised you didn't see any tunas. Yup, those blue sharks love that cold water and so does the man in the grey suit. They'll gang up on you in numbers too. There must be a healthy population of sharks if they showed up that quickly.

Jay Moore ran into a GW striper fishing in RI once in 30ft of water a few years ago, ask him about it one day.

Good idea on the tip modification but I'm reluctant to do that since I'm trying to stick to what's tried and proven for the big tautogs. We have some real big guys on the wrecks in 50-100 this time of year. A certain Yank has the current WR and I think there's bigger around, know him by any chance? :D Don't worry, these hurricanes stur up the vis really bad so who knows what the wrecks will look like after the storm.

Welcome to DB by the way!

Mark
 
Hey Mark just to let you know i met Titus today by chance when i was in my local spearfishing shop.Nice bloke and like you say very good spearo_Only a short meeting but maybe we'll get a chance to dive together in the future.Thanks for his details.
 
Mark,

Jay doesn't like to talk about his experience... I guess it is not a very pleasant experience seeing a 12-14 ft White in 8-10 ft of vis. He did tell me the story one evening.

The current mens Tautog record is 16 lb and change. I know several freedivers who have bested that mark but, did so before they knew there was the IUSA to record such achievements. One diver has a 21 lb Tog stuffed in his living room. It's about 36 inches long but, the width of the thing is amazing.

A new womans World Record Tautog was taken this past weekend at the Picasso Open and the womans Striped Bass record was also smashed recently.

I should be diving today =(

CT
 
CTFreediver, where were you diving when you saw the sharks? I also live in CT and dive every weekend in RI, but have yet to see any.
 
Stripey,

I am diving the same places as you.

"Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu you ladies of Spain. For we received orders for to sail back to Boston... And soon never more will we see you again."

CT
 
Hey John, you know it's a small world when I tell you about another diver in England and the next day you meet him by chance! uh, that's something. Titus once told me he couldn't take his girlfriend spearfishing because there wasn't enough room for her in his Porsce with all the spearfishing equipment he needed rofl.

Mike, I can't imagine a 36" tautog, I shoot 36" stripers in NC and they look big!

Mark
 
Titus only had his VW polo fish carrying car but i've heard all about the porsche and the ferrari...oh and his new riffle he's just brought for africa....He's starting to become a legend already rofl rofl
 
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