Warmest 7mm

[kale]

I have a sporasub 7mil right now that is good but I am considering buying a second suit and I am wondering if anyone that has tried a few more suits than me can give some reccomendation for a very warm 7mil....I have heard Picasso Ghost is a warm suit. Does anyone know of a warmer one? Thank you,
Kale

 

[island_sands]

I have a sporasub 7mil right now that is good but I am considering buying a second suit and I am wondering if anyone that has tried a few more suits than me can give some reccomendation for a very warm 7mil....I have heard Picasso Ghost is a warm suit. Does anyone know of a warmer one? Thank you,
Kale

Hi Kale
I dived with my Imersion 7mm suit in cape town last night, the water was 9degC and i was toasty (except for my hands!)


:wave

 

[Whopperhead]

I use a 5mil Elios and dive in 30 degee (F) 0 Degree (C) - and my body is fine- it's my toes that gets cold - but not until a few hours.

 

[Gwaihir]

anybody got some tricks on not getting freezing toes ?
Will a monofin help ,since the toes are capsuled in ?
Why aren't toes capsuled in on bifins ? aka omer millennium.

 

[fjohnson]

Picasso Ghost.. off the shelf at least $450..
Eliossub.. tailor made to fit.. $350u.s... (mostly due to the bad euro to usd exchange) what's to figure?

 

[Marwan]

how can you move in a 7mm?? my winter wetsuit is 3.5mm and already its a hassle in wearing it

 

[sunfish]

If you wear one all the time, Marwan, you don't notice the restriction. The buoyancy change when you dive is the biggest hassle.

 

[Pastor]

anybody got some tricks on not getting freezing toes ?

Ask Elios to make you up some open cell socks with an outer seal to tuck under your suit bottoms. It worked for another member from Norway

 

[spaghetti]

Why aren't toes capsuled in on bifins ?

bifins footpockets are cut at the toes to give a way out for water. If they fill in with water there'll be smaller room for the feet and that'll hurt.
Bit of history: first open toe bifin was the Cressi Rondine in the late 40's, designed by Luigi Ferraro. Our modern rubbers give a better seal so water leaking has become a smaller problem, but go figure in the 40's, with that extra-hard tyre rubber that was the only one available.....

 

[Gwaihir]

Hmm still wondering if im gonna try sealing the opening on my omers
Thanx for the history lessen thoe

God call Pastor, but wouldnt I get the same effect just by turning my socks inside out,so that the opencell will be on the outside and get a waterlock against my suit.
Or just buy a pair of omers,they make that kind of socks,whit opencell on the outside,anyway I have tried turning them inside out- and I still freeze

Irritating getting out of the water after 30 minutes,just becouse of my toes are freezing,when the rest of the body is just fine.

 

[island_sands]

gosh you have lost weight

 

[Pastor]

gosh you have lost weight

Gained some hair too and strangely enough a Norwegian accent It's PosiedonSV and his suit but more importantly his warm socks. You know what they say about Norwegians with warm socks!

 

[kale]

I use a 5mil Elios and dive in 30 degee (F) 0 Degree (C) - and my body is fine- it's my toes that gets cold - but not until a few hours.

That is nuts! The coldest it gets here is about 46f. I don't know anyone who dives here in a five mil and stays warm for more than a couple hours. I'll look at the Elios. How old is your suit? Thanks,
Kale

 

[Whopperhead]

I got my Elios suit last April - the "econo" line - Open cell- We're probably diving Lake Michigan on New Years Day- should be in mid 30's I would think (heat Wave) The coldest I've been in so far was 29 degrees and was still fine on the body. Getting out on the other had is a different story- 8 degrees (f) air temp - does not help things.

 

[foxfish]

We have touched on this subject before - some people dont feel the cold like others & some people carry their own insulation!

 

[Whopperhead]

SO.............What are you saying?

 

[kale]

Scott,
Do your dive buddies dive that thin of suits? I stay warmer than most of my buddies and I have a good layer of my patented lycrafur under my suit,but that sounds really cold. I dove Lake Superior in the summer and it was a balmy 41,lol. Let me know what some of the other Wisconsinites are wearing please.
Thanks,
Kale

 

[Whopperhead]

Most everyone is wearing 5mm open cell (Elios, Omer, Beuchat, Spetton)- That's it. We all stay fairly comfortable except for those who have 3mm gloves and socks- I believe Wreckrunner just got his new 6mil Elios and will be joining us on January 19th In Sheboygan- I havn't dove the Great Lakes in Winter, so I 'm not sure what the water temp is- I know it's warmer that 30! so, it shouldn't be too bad.

 

[kale]

Scott,
You Wisconsinites are in a class of your own! I am not even considering a 5mm. How long do you stay in the water? I usually stay in for 5-8hrs with a lunch break in between. Custom fit must make a big difference.
Kale

 

[Whopperhead]

When I was in Lake Mendota - the shore entry temp was 29 degrees (f) and the temp out where we were diving was about 32/33 degrees and we were in for about 3 1/2 hours and had to get out cause our toes and fingers were cold- Our bodies were fine.

In Lake Monona the entry temp was 30 - BUT there is a warm water discharge that got up to 54 degree. So swimming in and out of the warm and cold water we were in for about 3-4 hours and got out cause my toes - once again.

Lake Michigan was in the mid 40's and we stayed in for a good 6 hours- and got out cause it was time to go. I'll post how it goes for us tomorrow.