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WC2011 - descent line stolen to Sara Campbell!

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Well, there is already a thread for the WC in Kalamata, but I think this event deserves a separate thread!

From Michal Risian's Facebook status:

From Free Dive World (translated from Czech):
 
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I heard part of the story, good strong diver with a poor lanyard. I feel bad for Sara and a lot of nervous safety divers... again

Glad everyone is safe and sound.

As a matter of interest does anyone have a picture of the exact lanyard and its design in case there is some learning to be had from it?

A quick release mechanism that has too quickly released or was it not attached in the first place? The video would show that.

I should go and find this other thread 'cos this has already probably been done.

Enjoy the party, wish I could be there to enjoy it
 
I do not know for sure, but I think it might have been the velcro strap around the wrist that was not properly closed. The lanyard Michal uses is quite well made, but it may be old, and the velcro may be already inefficent. Seeing this, the question is whether velcro should not be banned on lanyards - dirt, sand, or seaweed may get in it, and on my mind it can happen even with a lanyard in an excellent shape.
 
We use sailing quick release mechanisms, a similar thing could happen.

I think that a quick release mechanism that it is completely impossible to mess up and it come unattached is an oxymoron.

What do you reckon Trux for a design?
 
Well, I agree the quick release mechanism is a controversial "safety" option. Velcro itself, if properly used, can hold a lot, but if it is dirty, and not properly closed, or of insufficient quality and dimensions, it can always happen. However, using classical buckle would probably not help much - they can fail too. Perhaps each freediver should have a unremovable lanyard fixed for the life?
 
Incredible that Michal managed to stay calm-- but I guess his PB in CNF is near 90m so he had the confidence that he could perhaps make it to the surface even without a line. This reminds me of Genoni's accident in NLT when at 145m both lift mechanisms failed and after 40-50 seconds of struggling on the bottom, he ascended free immersion from a no-limits dive, and made it to 10m before a BO in range of the safety freedivers. Only the real experts manage to escape such situations.

I myself have had several such experiences, in the days before the lanyard. I several times lost the line in complete blackness underwater (line was invisible) and ascended far away from the line when attempting a personal best (happened at least 3 times in 2000-2001).

I feel sorry for Sara, but on the bright side she wins another golden egg award.
 
I lost my line two times before in our dark quarry before but there is only 58m depth. Yesterday we saw the video from two bottom cameras and one surface camera and it pretty interesting. I was falling in about 15 degree angle away to 90 meters and in the simillar angle up to 60 m and then grabed the line and complaining on the surfice that safety touched me ...:ycard didn't know I am on different lane ... I didn't know in which dept I was, I saw no line so my first guess was I had to be around 100m. So my plan was to get to the surface, close to platform and rely on safety because I was expecting I would BO, but I met no safety to the surface (no one saw expecting me on the other line) and went conscious after 3:34 dive. Once I have the vid I post the link. In the attachment you find my shitty velcro band from its yesterday last dive and one that is safe and which i plan to use.
 

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Composure certainly played its part as did expertise.


Well done, did you get your protocol in?

 
Mišal, I am very glad it turned out well! Congratulations on great performances. I feel sorry for Sara though.
 
here is the video

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OoyM4MwAA]AIDA Freediving WC Kalamata FIM - YouTube[/ame]

poor Sara was snakebit. She witnessed a a bad accident right before he cwt WR attempt and couldn't regain her composure then while she breathing for the FIM WR attempt Michal popped up.
 
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"DON'T TOUCH ME! I am OK" - Excellent!!! rofl
Must be a new protocol!
 
Wow, this video really scares me! He was so unbelievably lucky. But I really feel bad for Sara.
 
Thinking about the case, I believe the AIDA Board, Comissions, and the Assembly should discuss it and set clear rules what to do in a case when a competitor dives, and the dive needs to be interrupted immediately for safety reasons. Perhaps using a laud UW speaker or a siren, and/or continusly pulling on the rope could be used to signal the competitor that he has to interrupt the dive immediatly and return back. Never mind if more competitors will be diving in the same time - it is better if they all have their dives cancelled (or have to repeat them), than losing a diver. If there was a safety diver with a scooter ready, he could have stopped Michal. But apparently there are no procedure, and no drills for such case, so even if the scooter was there, it is a question whether they'd react quick enough if the procedure was not trained.

EDIT: and in the same time, also for many other cases, I think there should be a way for the freediver to send a signal to the surface in distress. Not only in case of losing the rope, but also when entangled, having some medical problem, or in many other cases. One possibility is repeatadly pulling the line (if not lost) - but as long as such signal is not standardized and tought to both competitors and safeties, it risks not to be used, or not to be interpreted correctly or quickly enough. Some electronic singalling might be even better, and there are devices on the market that can even give its position and depth under water. I think it would be worth of investigating its use for competitions and record attempts (well for trainings finally too).
 
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Wow, what an incident!

Well I guess the lanyard protocol regulations will be looked upon.

Indeed Sara looked very spooked!

Didn't she get a restart?
 
Wow, what an incident!

Well I guess the lanyard protocol regulations will be looked upon.

Indeed Sara looked very spooked!

Didn't she get a restart?

Sara got the restart in the afternoon but after so much unexpected not pleasant experience she decided not to repeat. David King and me was quite enough for her. Sorry Sara, you make it next time .
 
In case of no rope/line I would had to do CNF way up and rely on my oxygen storage. My CNF PB at the competition was 84m so I would probably at least ascend by my self and rely that safety would find me.
 
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