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Whale meat tastes bad?

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This was online on MSN. I was unaware that whale meat was gamey. Maybe a good thing for the whales!



TOKYO - Japan has enticed children with whale burger school lunches, sung the praises of the red meat in colorful pamphlets, and declared whale hunting "a national heritage."

But Tokyo has a dilemma: by rapidly expanding its whale hunt, Japan now kills more of the giant mammals than its consumers care to eat.

The result is an unprecedented glut of whale meat. Prices — once about $15 a pound — are plunging, inventories are bursting, and promoters are scrambling to get Japanese to eat more whale.

It's a tough sell.

"To put it simply, whale meat tastes horrible," said 30-year-old Kosuke Nakamura, one of the diners at a Hana No Mai restaurant in Tokyo who turned their noses up at whale meat.

Young people are put off by the tough, pungent meat, Nakamura said, while older Japanese are reminded of the lean years after the country's defeat in World War II.

And while few Japanese voice environmental concerns over hunting whales, some younger people say it has brought the country unfavorable publicity.

"Whaling's so bad for Japan's image. I don't know why we still hunt," Nakamura said.

Some 1,035 tons of whale meat hit the market in Japan last year, a 65 percent increase from 1995, the Fisheries Agency says. And sluggish demand means inventories have almost doubled in five years to 2,704 tons in 2004.

In the same period, the average price of whale fell almost 30 percent, to just over $10 a pound in 2004. That's more than the average price for beef — about $9 a pound — and far higher than for chicken or pork.

But the glut of whale meat hasn't stopped the harpoon guns. Tokyo plans to kill — under a research program — some 1,070 minke whales in 2006, over 400 more than last year. Japan will also hunt 10 fin whales, and a total of 160 Bryde's, sei and sperm whales, fisheries official Kenji Masuda said.

The International Whaling Commission banned commercial whaling in 1986, approving limited hunts for research purposes a year later. Opponents have called Japan's hunts merely a way for it to dodge the whaling ban.

Tokyo says its program is needed to establish reliable information on whale populations and habits — data Japan says can only be gleaned by killing the animals.

The government, which distributes the meat and uses profits to fund research, is working to promote whale meat and secure new distribution channels.

"Is it OK to eat whale meat? Of course it is," reads a pamphlet titled "Delicious Whales" that is distributed by the government-affiliated Japan Whaling Association.

"Even if we capture 2,000 whales a year for 100 years, it's OK because whale numbers are growing," the pamphlet says.

The association acknowledges whale is a hard sell. The meat was considered a rich source of protein in the lean years after World War II, but people moved on to other meats — notably beef — as they became more affluent.

Some local governments have begun offering whale meat in school lunches.

Wakayama, a prefecture with a whale-hunting tradition 280 miles southwest of Tokyo, has been aggressive in getting youngsters to eat whale, introducing whale meals at 270 public schools in 2005.

Nutritionists have even developed child-friendly whale dishes, including whale meatballs, hamburgers and whale spaghetti bolognese, said Tetsuji Sawada of Wakayama's education board.

Chimney Co., which runs the Hana No Mai eateries, acknowledges customers are wary of new whale dishes.

Still, Hana No Mai will keep selling whale meat. And a trader at one of Tsukiji market's biggest wholesalers, Daito Gyorui Co., was equally optimistic.

"The fall in prices is a good thing because it will make whale meat more accessible," Yoshiaki Kochi said. "Japanese will never forget the taste of whale. It's part of our culture. It's in our DNA."
 
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Whale bolognese? Well, I'm sure Colombus would have approved, especially about 2/3 of the way across!! Oddly, the Norwegians don't seem to be so picky. Tougher stock, obviously.
 
Might I suggest pummelling the whale with a wrecking ball before serving. I find that this works in tenderizing the good-for-nothing krill-suckers before serving them to elementary schools as taco meat.

If you don't happen to have a wrecking crane, might I suggest a submarine with an oversized boxing glove on the end of a hydraulically telescopic arm to loosen the old sea-beast up.

As for taste? Tabasco has been a staple to many nations for quite some time now. A little dash will do.
 
dallasdiver said:
... I was unaware that whale meat was gamey. Maybe a good thing for the whales!
Gamey isn't a bad thing if you like eating game. (I'm not planning to eat whale though!).
 
"Gamey" may not be so bad. 'Tough' and 'pungent' however aren't how I would want to describe my food. As if school lunches weren't bad enough.
 
BatRay said:
"Gamey" may not be so bad. 'Tough' and 'pungent' however aren't how I would want to describe my food. As if school lunches weren't bad enough.
"whale meat tastes horrible," also does not sound too promising! (Better to stick to ubiquitous, tasty, destructive non-native predators: American Signal Crayfish & Chinese Mitten Crab!).
 
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tsk tsk tsk...

The smaller whales are better eating. The beginner chef should start with dolphins... :hmm

As for tenderising: I find baking the whole animal, for 3-4 weeks in a moderate oven (Gas 3) does the trick. See your local steelworks for a suitable size oven! :friday
 
these here mitten Crabs have got my mind going...
what are they?
crabs you get on your mitts? (I said, "mitts" Shane!)
 
Whale meat Luxury
When i was a kid i would have loved a nice plate of Whale meat for school lunch.

Mum had NO lunch making imagaination .
How many time can you eat Cucumber sandwiches or Salta sandwiches or Cucumber and Tomato.

Mind you my wifes family were Cray fisherman and she used to take Cray fish sandwiches to school and swapp them because she was sick of the stuff.

Wish she had gone to my bloody school i would have swapped my stuff if she wanted to or not.

Any way, its good to see they arnt eating it,

Crusty
 
Cucumber and tomato sandwiches, .........HA, ....luxury!!!!

When I was a kid my mom would would send us to school with soup she made from puddle water and twigs, and when we got home after school (all 12 of us kids) we would line for our daily beating, and then go to bed in the room that didn't have a roof, ............and that was on a good day if we were lucky!

Tell that to kids now a days and they just wouldn't believe ya!
 
I know i have posted this before but it makes me chuckle

Crusty

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You're right there, Obadiah.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
A cup o' cold tea.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Without milk or sugar.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Or tea.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In a cracked cup, an' all.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness, son".
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, 'e was right.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, 'e was.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
I was happier then and I had nothin'. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, 'alf the floor was missing, and we were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t' corridor!
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we used to dream of livin' in a corridor! Would ha' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
We were evicted from our 'ole in the ground; we 'ad to go and live in a lake.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Cardboard box?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.
ALL:
They won't!
 
jimdoe2you said:
Cucumber and tomato sandwiches, .........HA, ....luxury!!!!

When I was a kid my mom would would send us to school with soup she made from puddle water and twigs, and when we got home after school (all 12 of us kids) we would line for our daily beating, and then go to bed in the room that didn't have a roof, ............and that was on a good day if we were lucky!

Tell that to kids now a days and they just wouldn't believe ya!

when i went to school mum used to give me my sandwiched in sealed up jiffy bag - used to carry them in my blazer pocket.

i always forgot to eat my lunch, and mum would empty my pockets on friday... the sandwiches the same colour as my school blazer rofl
:yack :yack
 
getting this thread back on track.....

whale meat tastes like beef crossed with tuna. Its quite fatty tho like wagu steak, marbled. It seems to me its popular here in japan wth two types of people, middle class working joe truck driver / construction worker type who likes it cos its cheaper than beef but meatier than fish and possibly because, in a nationalistic kind of way, it reminds them of post war years and japanese battling against all odds / rest of the world etc, (i.e in relation to anti-whaling movements). The other type is the rich urban businessman, also male, who is aware of all the above and like its cos its a bit "risque" or "dangerous" , kind of like businessmen who ride harleys on the weekend. I've eaten whale with both types - its better with the businessman cos its usually smoked, or raw but presented beautifully, however its good with the worker type cos its usually raw, theres heaps of it along with heaps of beer and you can get drunk and pig out on an endangered animal, and then feel like double awful in the morning from combined feelings of guilt and hangover nausea.

I don't in anyway condone eating whale. Unfortunately I'm the type of guy that get a kick out of eating exotic food - whale, dog, insects, grubs, barnacles, fish sperm, I nearly once ate cat (and I often eat pussy) but I think I would draw the line at dolphins, shadow.
 
so much ofr canned tuna... when can i get my hands on some canned whale, now that would sell like hot bread
 
Like beef with a tuna overlay? Heck, that's what good bear meat tastes like! Oh, dear, Amphibious and I would be all over that and, yes, we would probably feel terribly guilty (and hungover) the next day.
 
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