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What is Pipin doing these days???
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To awnser your question Amphibious, I do care.
I'm not a fan of the mistakes, what I've heard, he has made. But I'm always intrested in Francisco Fereras learning an growing, like I'm interesed in everyman's devellopment.
I'm pretty convinced man can learn anything if he would only open his mind and awser to his spirit/intuition instead one's ego.
Love, peace and water!
Kars.
I'm not a fan of the mistakes, what I've heard, he has made. But I'm always intrested in Francisco Fereras learning an growing, like I'm interesed in everyman's devellopment.
I'm pretty convinced man can learn anything if he would only open his mind and awser to his spirit/intuition instead one's ego.
Love, peace and water!
Kars.
there are many other freedivers to look to for inspiration. you have to look past the record sometimes.
Manuel said:
Five years ago it was 2000. I was competing all over in 2000, and then, LeMaster held the record at 81m and Pelizzari had recently held it at 80m. They were 'THE' divers people cared about and talked about. Hardly any freedivers care about no-limits, only the media cares about no-limits. Pipin's last CW record was something like 63m in 1995-96, a decade ago. That was the last time that he was 'THE' freediver....
he did 68m back in 1992. let's not forget that he's also did 87m in training a couple of years ago when he was 40 years old... how many of us will be able to do that when we're 40? that makes him one of the deepest constant weight divers of all time. he chose to specialise in nolimits because it's the deepest discipline. had he specialised in constant weight i'm sure he would have set some amazing records.
whatever anyone says about him no-one can possibly deny that he is one of the greatest freedivers ever, in terms of his diving performance and the number of records he set.
wherever he is right now i hope he's found some peace and is able to enjoy diving.
whatever anyone says about him no-one can possibly deny that he is one of the greatest freedivers ever, in terms of his diving performance and the number of records he set.
wherever he is right now i hope he's found some peace and is able to enjoy diving.
Maybe very few people care about no-limits. But the fact of the matter is that no-limits freediving is the exact discipline that is responsible for the world-wide image of freediving. Unfortunately, the only way for freediving to grow into an internationally recognisable sport, in which the athletes are granted the acclaim that they seek, is to keep the media, and therefore, Joe public, happy. The media and Joe Public do not give a rats ass about constant weight, variable ballast, static apnea etc etc. They only care who goes the deepest, and who stays down longest. The mission facing current freedivng marketing people, if they want the sport to grow, is to elevate constant weight into a catagory of 'major interest'. The only life line to public interest was mayol, Enzo, Umberto, pipin, and more recently, Tanya Streeter. Because, to quote the media.." if a male cannot go as deep as Pipin / No Limits on one of those sleds...then find me a beautiful woman who can try..." I work in the media, and thats the reality.No-one cares about these new hotshots. They only care about finding some one who is prepared to stand on a sled, pull a handle, and go down into un-imaginable places, where monsters lurk, and where it's so deep that your blood starts to glow. And as far as the media are concerned, Pipin was the last man to do that.
So, the mission facing the current freediving community, is to find someone to replace pipin, and to find a way to elevate CW diving, variable ballast , static, etc etc to superstar status.
Not to answer a question about Pipin with.." Who Cares?" Because rightly or wrongly, the people who care are holding the popularity of freediving in their hands.
Dive safe.
Jeff
So, the mission facing the current freediving community, is to find someone to replace pipin, and to find a way to elevate CW diving, variable ballast , static, etc etc to superstar status.
Not to answer a question about Pipin with.." Who Cares?" Because rightly or wrongly, the people who care are holding the popularity of freediving in their hands.
Dive safe.
Jeff
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Amphibious: Sure anyone can be a exemple, is it not for what they did wel, or displaying the opposite, bad exemples. Pipin showed the world both. I'm sure Pipin can learn from his mistakes too, is it not tomorrow, than the day after. I do not give up on people easily, though there are plenty of reasons, especially in these extraordinary times.
Love peace and water!
Kars.
Love peace and water!
Kars.
yes. i'm sure it's been mentioned on DB before - try searching for it.
he did it when Patrick set his 87m IAFD WR, back in 2002 i think. i heard Pipin did it with a monofin (despite not having had much practice) but he did have a small samba if i remember the story correctly. i don't know who else was there, but i'm sure Patrick witnessed it.
40... i only say that because for most sports people reach their peak much younger than 40. no doubt age is a minor factor in freediving, compared to other sports like athletics, but things inevtiably gets harder with age, especially in the more physical disciplines like CW.
he did it when Patrick set his 87m IAFD WR, back in 2002 i think. i heard Pipin did it with a monofin (despite not having had much practice) but he did have a small samba if i remember the story correctly. i don't know who else was there, but i'm sure Patrick witnessed it.
40... i only say that because for most sports people reach their peak much younger than 40. no doubt age is a minor factor in freediving, compared to other sports like athletics, but things inevtiably gets harder with age, especially in the more physical disciplines like CW.
Alun said:
not me honey i have four years to go and i will be 40 and I am sure as hell going to get even better... check out Annabel Briseno aged over 50.. and then tell if I am going to go downhill...
only if you believe it... youth is a state of mind and attitude.. not having a go at you personally Alun.
Just NOBODY ever tell I am going to reach my peak at 40.. in fact.. peaks are rising!
@ efattah:
THE freediver was not only referred to a special category like CW or NL, but to the long time he is diving, to his diving experience, to the big number of records, to his media publicity and many other factors.
Now Umberto is still (one of) THE freedivers, altough his (official) record in CW is over 25m away from the actual record.
If a relative beginner or even a advanced freediver, but who already knows the "new men" with the "new records", he' ll definitly raise Umberto or Jaques to his models and not Carlos Coste, Tom Sietas or Martin Stepanek who are also world class freedivers.
But back to the topic: A few year ago Pipin was one of those "living legends" and just due to the accident of his wife which he didn't want 100%, he' s the bad man. And that' unfair.
Sorry if I reduced someone's performance in my last post.
MANUEL
THE freediver was not only referred to a special category like CW or NL, but to the long time he is diving, to his diving experience, to the big number of records, to his media publicity and many other factors.
Now Umberto is still (one of) THE freedivers, altough his (official) record in CW is over 25m away from the actual record.
If a relative beginner or even a advanced freediver, but who already knows the "new men" with the "new records", he' ll definitly raise Umberto or Jaques to his models and not Carlos Coste, Tom Sietas or Martin Stepanek who are also world class freedivers.
But back to the topic: A few year ago Pipin was one of those "living legends" and just due to the accident of his wife which he didn't want 100%, he' s the bad man. And that' unfair.
Sorry if I reduced someone's performance in my last post.
MANUEL
Even if no-limits is what gets the media, no-limits is portrayed by the media as a death defying, nearly suicidal activity. This image, instead of attracting people to the sport, scares them away. It most often produces a response like this: "Who would be stupid enough to do something like that and risk their life? I would never do that, and even if I wanted to I probably couldn't."
In my case, I'm not going to celebrate an activity which scares people away from the sport... even if it somehow generates some level of sponsorship.
The way I see it, if you want to do no-limits, then you need to fund it yourself, and tell the freediving world what you did, but don't get the big media involved.
In my case, I'm not going to celebrate an activity which scares people away from the sport... even if it somehow generates some level of sponsorship.
The way I see it, if you want to do no-limits, then you need to fund it yourself, and tell the freediving world what you did, but don't get the big media involved.
The bad taste left in people's mouths goes beyond the death of his wife. Most of us here were offering condolences when that happened.
There is much history, arrogance, and some dangerous teaching back there too. As one said earlier, look beyond the performances and see the person. A depth guage will not tell you that.
That said, I hope Pipin is doing ok and has some peace in his life after such a terrible loss. I'd be surprised if he wasn't out spearfishing every weekend or so. Lots of peace there
Cheers,
Erik Y.
There is much history, arrogance, and some dangerous teaching back there too. As one said earlier, look beyond the performances and see the person. A depth guage will not tell you that.
That said, I hope Pipin is doing ok and has some peace in his life after such a terrible loss. I'd be surprised if he wasn't out spearfishing every weekend or so. Lots of peace there
Cheers,
Erik Y.
Here's what I know: IAFD disbanded after Audrey's Fatal accident, Pipin is in the middle of a civil lawsuit with a former IAFD employee, his so called movie he was going to make with James Cameron fell by the wayside - from my understanding, he is laying low for the time being. This comes from a reliable source I have in the Miami area.
