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Which are the best Omer fins for a beginner? Millenium, Runner or Stingray?

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jules1972

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Hi,

I'm looking at getting a pair of Omer fins from Apnea as i hear the Omer fins have a good sized foot pocket - I tried the Cressi ones and they're too narrow.

Only thing is they've got 3 types of fin in my price range and I don't know which one to go for as I can't see why I'd get one over the other :confused:

Anybody have any experience of these at all? Anyone had more than one of them to tell why one would be better than another?

Thanks a lot.

Jules
 
I've tried the milleniums many time and had the owned the Stingrays. My sugestion is that stingrays are probably the best plastic fins out there. They have plenty of angle, the footpocket is better fitting than on the old milleniums and the blade is quite nice infact. I enjoyed them a lot!
 
Glad there's someone out there who's had more than one of these, thanks Dinosaurus. what do you mean by the blade on the stingrays having plenty of angle? I'm new to spearing.

Thanks.
 
I own a pair of milleniums and they are very stiff so put them on ebay. If you want a very good quality fins with a good price go on www.fins4u.co.uk they sell carbon and fiberglass for only £ 104 included omer footpocket I have both of them and Im extremely happy I'm not going back with normal plastic fins anymore,I use the carbon from the boat and the fiberglass from the shore, dont worry if you spend few quid extra on good product you will have the money paid back with a much better product and less efforts in the water :friday.
 
Thanks for the input Tony, just not convinced on spending £104 on a pair of fins is going to get past the mrs right now! If i buy a pair of the omer stingrays for example can't i just upgrade to a better a pair of blades keeping the original footpockets at a later date and get the same result? I'm new to spearing and am trying to get involved without spending loads of money to start with.
 
Thanks for the input Tony, just not convinced on spending £104 on a pair of fins is going to get past the mrs right now! If i buy a pair of the omer stingrays for example can't i just upgrade to a better a pair of blades keeping the original footpockets at a later date and get the same result? I'm new to spearing and am trying to get involved without spending loads of money to start with.
Not sure,I think is different better to ask to someone that knows it better, I saw the price of the stingrays and it's about £40 difference if you want to upgrade them in the future you need £80 it's your choice mate :friday.
 
Cheers Tony,

Gonna have to go cheap at the moment - cash flow. As a friend of mine put it so eloquently recently I'm in a long line of people getting *$£?ed around at the moment!
 
STINGRAYS!!!!! are the best option, i have the perks work wise to use alot of different fins:

- all OMER
- Cressi
-Immersion
- Jb esclapez

amongst others and the Stingray Footpocket comes in large sizes is better shaped to the foot, more comfortable and has an excellent power transfur. the factory Poly blade is very nice and i have comfortably taken it below 30m. and you are correct after you have out grown the plastic blades anyone of the many major fin manufacturers in Carbon or Fibreglass have blades that will fit into your existing pocket. you really cant go wrong with the stingrays!

DD
 
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Thanks a lot for the input divingdane, reckon i'm going to get myself a pair of these stingrays and it also turns out i can get them cheper than the milleniums too!

I love this forum so much help and advice it's crazy!
 
Hey fellas,

im about to order some omer stingray fins

ive been hearing a lot of problems with the sizing not matching up

im a size 10-10.5 on my shoe, so which fin size do you think i should get?
I was obviously going for the 43-44, but am considering going one size smaller to the 41-42

BTW...i will not be wearing any socks with my fins...thats why i thought i should go down a size in the fin

thanks in advance
 
Beuchat Mundial Competition fins deserve a mention: usually inexpensive, large, have a great foot pocket, incredibly hard wearing. I haven't tried the Omer footpockets but they seem to be the de facto standard and the Omer Stingrays look like a good product at a reasonable price.
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ive been hearing a lot of problems with the sizing not matching up

im a size 10-10.5 on my shoe, so which fin size do you think i should get?
I was obviously going for the 43-44, but am considering going one size smaller to the 41-42

BTW...i will not be wearing any socks with my fins...thats why i thought i should go down a size in the fin
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There are many different mappings between UK, US and European sizes - most of them wrong, some very wrong. So you should try to find a pair from your chosen manufacturer to try on. Those European sizes sound too small to me, if you are saying you wear UK size 10-10.5...I would think maybe EU 45 - but perhaps you mean USA size 10-10.5, in which case you are probably right. I would generally add to the size for neoprene socks - but I normally find shoes too small or narrow, perhaps you often find them loose or too big?
 
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a little off topic but how do the stingray carbon fins match up to C4's and other carbon fins
 
Diving Dane,
What do you mean by "better shaped to the foot" when you describe the Stingrays?
I can't tell from any of the photos how wide the footpocket is at the front compared to the back.
 
the footpocket is more naturally contoured to a "foot" shape i guess is what i am saying unlike most other models that are very square. they are a larger fit though.

in a millenium i am a 44-46 (tight fit) in the Stingray i am a 43-44 (tight fit) this is with 1mm sox.

they have better shape around the toe area so your toes can sit flatter and more comfortable, while the support around the top of the foot/arch area is better too.

as for the Stingray Carbon v the C4, i own c4 81's which i like as well as Omer Stingray Carbon 25's. for general purpose freediving, phtography and spearfishing the stingrays are better suited, more maneuravable, not as long and still comfortably get me to 40m+. the c4's are nice but are alot more specialised in my opinion, even the mustang model (BennyB has them) i think are more suited to vertical dedicated freediving than anything else.

DD
 
Thganks DD

One other question on the Stingrays; how flexible are the side rails?
After playing with my E-carbons and E-greens for a while, I have decided that I prefer a flexible side rail. Just generally smoother swimming, as comared to Black Teams or Milleniums.
 
why didnt anyone mention the omer ice (unless thats encompassed under "milleniums") i found the omer Ice to be one of the best all round fins. Remember the choice of the right fins depends highly on your physique (especially larger stronger guys) and hunting conditions (Shallow Vs. Deep, surface swimming etc...). I find the omer ice to be really excellent for average sized guys who do a lot of surface swimming and dives up to 20m...I would say thats over 80% of the population..if you are a larger guy with very strong legs, you will need something stiffer than the ice fins.. my friend Ihab loves the ice but he has broken at least 5 pairs of those fins during regular finning
 
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the stingray side rails are Very flexible, they are much softer than milleniums and are in a completly different league to the JB ESclapez fins, however the Imersion foopockets have the softest side rails i have seen (as per the ones on your ecarbons etc)

Marwon i huess the biggest reason the ices have been specifically mentioned is:
a) they are discontinued
b) they had some reliability issues
c) the stingrays have better angle for surface swimming, have a nice soft blade and a more comfortable footpocket.

the only advantage the ice has over the stingray is the clear finish otherwise the stingray is a better performing fin targeted at the same size person.

i'm tall and thin (6'4" and 80kg) so long and very skinny/slight of build and the stingray is better in the water than the ice all be it i liked the ICE as well when they were available but the stingray footpocket is 100% nicer to use than the millenium footpocket it replaces.

DD
 
I own a pair of milleniums and they are very stiff so put them on ebay. If you want a very good quality fins with a good price go on www.fins4u.co.uk they sell carbon and fiberglass for only £ 104 included omer footpocket I have both of them and Im extremely happy I'm not going back with normal plastic fins anymore,I use the carbon from the boat and the fiberglass from the shore, dont worry if you spend few quid extra on good product you will have the money paid back with a much better product and less efforts in the water :friday.

thanks for the site, I'm considering to get carbon blades for the first time now :)

do you have an idea if the blades only fit omer milenium shoes or do they fit to other omer models too? I will buy the shoe seperatelly as I want to try it on first
 
Fins are never called fins to she who must be obeyed .They are always called safety equipment.We must also remember that spending money on our beloved sport for safety is a relative thing . Try "darling youd never forgive yourself if i died because i lacked the proper safety equipment ,besides a hundred and four quid is a lot less than 3000 quid in burial costs isnt it "... pause then wait for her to say 'yes' and she will because if she loves you ,its the only thing she can say .If she doesnt love you she wont want to waste 3000 quid on a funeral ,will she . show the picture of the fins youve chosen with 2 colour options and say ,"which colour do you like best ,the black ones or the camo ones ?. when she says the camo one you say the magic words 'YES I THINK YOUR RIGHT' .(this will Gnaw at your soul, so you must practice this with conviction ,a mirror is good ,dont smile. you fail if you smile ). Then ,with great nonchalonce you say, "Ill see if I have time next week (not now) to pop in and get a good price ." Then walk away ,or casually put something away that she has been nagging you to take down too the shed (no more taliking ) Next week or sooner you go get what you want .Always tell her you got a discount of X amount .
Tell her you shopped around for the best price and then got a further discount on top.
The idea here is that women think of all mens sports as Hobbies ,like building model aeroplanes ,a waste of time and money .All the money is her money.She does the budget .Your just the bleeder of her budget .she needs a bargain ,a sign of great responsibility that you have spent her money wisely.
Having said all of this ,Im off to the Great Barrier reef in Australia to do a Scuba diving course, with one of my mates .Shes not coming. 9 Glorious dives on pristine coral crystal clear waters on a 29 metre diving boat .... my wife said I should !!!!
 
:D well said David.

I have 2 pairs of Stingrays. The foot pockets on the one set feel slightly softer than on the other so I have a feeling that it depends on when they were made and which batch you got. I removed the standard Stingray plastic blades (which are VERY soft and flexible) and I am using Spierre carbon blades which is out of the world. Superb bits of carbon they are.
 
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