World Freediving Award

[Billextreme]

Since 1999, the World Freediving Award has been presented to the world's best freedivers in competitions in each category. This Award is unique, and is based on the AIDA World Ranking list from each year.

Year 2010

Constant Weight,
Jarmila Slovencikova, Czech, 84m / 84 points, 100706
Herbert Nitsch, Austria, 124m / 124 points, 100422

Static,
Natalia Molchanova, Russia, 7'31" / 90,2 points, 100708
Robert Cetler, Poland, 8'42" / 104.4 points, 100320

Dynamic with fins,
Natalia Molchanova, Russia, 225m / 112,5 points, 100424
Dave Mullin, New Zeeland, 265m / 132,5 points, 100925

Dynamic without fins,
Dejana Zoretic, Croatia, 158m / 79 points, 101205
Dave Mullin, New Zeeland, 218m / 109 points, 100927

Constant Weight without fins,
Nicola Roderick, New Zealand, 60m / 60 points, 100620
William Trubridge, New Zealand, 95m / 95 points, 100426

Free Immersion,
Annelie Pompe, Sweden, 71m / 71 points, 100927
Herbert Nitsch, Austria, 120m / 120 points, 100425

regards
Bill

ps. you find earlier winners on this link

 

[trux]

Nice to see the data from APNEA.cz are useful for other purposes too (AIDA ranking is fed by the APNEA.cz database)

Just a minor comment, Bill, relatively unimportant. I know you exclude results from individual record attempts (like for example the Project Hector, etc). In the same time I see you kept the results from the Record Challenge by Dave Mullins, which was in fact also just an individual record attempt. I know it is in fact correct, because the NZ Record Challenge was announced as a competition, while the Project Hector just as a record attempt. Still it looks strange that two events of the absolutely same character are handled completely differently. I think there should be either set some minimal number of competitors to call an event competition, or to stop distinguishing between the two.

In case you took out the Record Challenge (but there is no official reason for doing so), Dave would still get the DYN award for 257m at Wellington Winter Champs, and the DNF would go to Goran Colak for 200m at Rhein-Man Cup.

 

[Billextreme]

Thanks for the info

The info I got was that the 265 was done in the competition.

This will of course be corrected, ONLY competition results are open for the The World Freediving Award. Just like it have been from the start when I as the founder of AIDA Ranking started November 1998 with this.

have a nice day
/B

 

[Billextreme]

My two cent would be that an AIDA competition with WR status should have at least 10 competitiors and 3 judges. And that all the judges can not have the same citizenship.

This to get the WR status.

/B

 

[Billextreme]

After checking all info I got for the moment:

Cressi World Record Challenge was registered as an AIDA Competition with WR status. This even if it was a camouflaged record attempt with a head judge from his own country. This would be conflict of interest if it was a separate record attempt. This record could be removed if we use the same rules as Mochanova got to taste after AIDA chose using a new rule retroactively (!!!) and take her 8 months old records away.

And my hope is that AIDA should use same rules for all.

/B

 

[trux]

The info I got was that the 265 was done in the competition.

Well, factually it is I believe correct. I think the record attempt event was announced as a competition to the calendar. The calendar event had the ID 631 on the old website.

However, Dave's records are the only performances sent for the ranking from that event. I believe there was also Kathryn who did a swim there, but no result was sent (perhaps she got a red card). Not sure if anyone else competed with Dave. These are all the results from the event: APNEA.cz ranking - Cressi World Record Challenge

 

[trux]

On the other hand, "competitions" with just 1-3 competitors are not so exceptional - just recently there was only one competitor at the last competion "Honolulu Freediving Pool Challenge". Personally, I do not care, and since I do not think it is regulated in the rules, I rather find distinguishing between the two categories currently for redundant.

 

[Mullins]

It was a comp - top times etc. Don't think Kathryn recorded any clean performances, and the others competing (there were several) probably took the 'rec grade' option that AIDA NZ offers, under which you pay a lower comp fee but don't go on the AIDA ranking list.

 

[trux]

Dave, could you tell the organizer or the judge to send me all the results, even those non-ranking? I collect all. Each of the results is categorized accordingly (AIDA Int ranking, AIDA national ranking, non-ranking, CMAS, or other federations), so only the "ranking" performances land in the official ranking at AIDA Int., but I still care also about the other results too.

 

[chrismar]

Was Joy organising that one?

I'm fairly sure there were other performances in the competition grade; I personally paid the registration fees of at least two competitors that swam in that comp. I was out of the country at the time (during triple depth), but I seem to remember that there were quite a few red cards at the comp.

ps. Bill, please stop bending the facts of the cases. You know what happened and why. You also know that the Cressi comp was nothing like that. Just leave it alone.

 

[Mullins]

camouflaged record attempt

rofl you stay classy Bill.

 

[trux]

If you guys have more such competitions with mixed ranking and non-ranking competitors, or even competitions entirely without the AIDA International ranking status, do not hesitate to send me the results anyway (as long as the rules were respected, and judges were present). I'll gladly add them to the APNEA.cz ranking.

 

[trux]

OK, the results of the Cressi WR Challenge are now updated, so it looks much better: APNEA.cz ranking - Cressi World Record Challenge

 

[chrismar]

Yeah, that's better. I see my recollection of many red cards was accurate...

As for recreational grade swims, we don't judge them by the same standards that we would under AIDA, so airways, SP, start on time, etc aren't penalised like they would be in competition. I don't think they should be included in your rankings for that reason. We do keep our own records here though.

 

[Unclejake]

My two cent would be that an AIDA competition with WR status should have at least 10 competitiors and 3 judges. And that all the judges can not have the same citizenship.

This to get the WR status.

/B

I see your point, but free-diving is still a fringe sport and not all that many people are interested in it.

Wellington, New Zealand is a city of 195,000 people. I think there were about seven competitors at the competition you refer to. I attended but I didn't compete.

I see that the last comp in Kuala Lumpur attracted about a dozen competitors. Kuala Lumpur has a population in excess of 1.6 million.

Thanks for making the effort to collate and post the list Bill. It is inspiring reading

 

[Billextreme]

rofl you stay classy Bill.

Correct... You do not have to be a nobelprizewinner to see this camouflaged record attempt be announced now and then as competitions.

/B

 

[Mullins]

That's the point of organising a comp with WR status, you see. It allows the athletes who participate in the comp to set WRs. Odd thing to have to spell out to a former AIDA president if you ask me. All AIDA regs complied with, COI document complied with, so you may as well take your tedious politicking elsewhere.

 

[Billextreme]

That's the point of organising a comp with WR status, you see. It allows the athletes who participate in the comp to set WRs. Odd thing to have to spell out to a former AIDA president if you ask me. All AIDA regs complied with, COI document complied with, so you may as well take your tedious politicking elsewhere.

Yep.. All AIDA regs complied with, COI document complied with... just like it was with Molchanova. The only thing is that the AIDA COI did not exist 2009. And it did not exist 2008 when the same thing happen, and everything was ok (!!)

The rule "they" used to take away her record is from a document (a guide how to select judges) that is only used for separate record attempts NOT competitions. And if we use the exact same rule, the exact same rule paragraf, for Cressi World Record Challenge - we have the same situation ...but this time they said ok.

But you, Mullins, do not have to comment this... because your only the athlete trying to follow the rules like Molchanova did, 100%

/B

 

[Mullins]

If this is just about drawing parallels with Molchanova's dives, best not to level accusations like 'camouflage' at us then, eh?

 

[Billextreme]

Camouflage records attempt have been around for a LONG time, and as you said; as long all comp rules is followed.. And that the divers do the dives as they should. This was the case at the comp down under and also at the comp in Sharm. And nothing in these two comps where hidden (!!!)

This "kind of" records is still around and happen now and then.

/B