Would CF Fins improve my bottom time?

[tuffstuff]

Hi,
I was wondering if getting some cf fins would be THAT much more efficient than my Beauchat Fibras? I have a bottom time of like 20seconds in 65ft that I'm looking to increase. Getting a new job soon and looking to buy the SPIERRE pure carbon fins.
thanks!

 

[Erik]

MY opinion is that you have a decent set of fins there and you might want to work on your static training, relaxation, and/or efficiency of your duck dive/hydrodynamics first. Better fins are always better!... but technique has a lot more to do with it. There are people doing crazy times/depths with no fins- something to consider.
But still get the new fins lol.

 

[tuffstuff]

I sit on the bottom and wait for fish. I imagine if I had some freedive training it would definately help since I can only calm down enough like 10% of the time but when I get like that I can stay down for a loooong time. I was just thinking if the carbon was THAT much better than fiberglass for energy consumption.

 

[nostres]

Fins don't increase bottom time, training does.

 

[Janner]

Carbon fins aren't that much better than fiberglass mate, you'd be better off spending the money on freediving tuition in my opinion.

But then again we all like new toys. . . . like carbon xxone anax with pathos footpockets :inlove now that would be a proper birthday present from the girlfriend. Pure spearfishing porn!!

Cheers Ian

 

[hudasmt]

I have the Beuchat Carbon and the Spierre Pure Carbon in 82 cm with Omer footpockets. I like the Spierre much better for open water. It gives me the speed and quick burst i need when stalking fish. The Beuchat has advantage thou in terms of footpocket comfort. I am just using my Beuchat now for pool training and snorkeling with friends. I'm no expert but i'm a sucker for long fins and my Beuchat is the shortest one i have. It didnt make a difference in my bottom time but it did sure made a difference in my distance covered and speed due to the fact that my Spierre is longer and lighter.

Cheers

Elvis

 

[alexrom1207]

"Carbon fins are a complete waste of money." That's what I keep telling myself because I don't have the money, and avoiding the temptation to buy them is a full time occupation for me.:waterwork
Basic rule I try to live by is that I buy everything right the first time and then I only have to buy it once. If you KNOW that eventually you're going to move to carbon fins, and they're not going to break the bank, then just get them now. That way you get more time with them and therefore more bang for your buck. Everyone says that, once you learn proper technique, carbon is better and more efficient. But you can't buy the technique (unfortunately), but you can buy the fins.

On the off chance, and this is really unlikely, that you actually are more interested in increasing bottom time and not just in coming up with a reason to justify buying a new toy ( I said very unlikely rofl) then I would agree that a freediving course is probably a better way to spend the coin as you'll get more bottom time for sure out of it.

On the other hand, you would look cooler with carbon fins , women would probably find you more attractive:chatup, your friends would all be insanely jealous:friday, and I've heard that fish find carbon fiber things as irresistible as most spearos do, so they'll probably come over to check you out and end up on the dinner plate:ko. (Just in case all the killjoys on this forum want to rain on your parade and ruin a perfectly good justification for buying new stuff.)

 

[chrismar]

Carbon fins are good, but they won't help bottom times. Technique and relaxation are the key here.

To give you an idea about the difference between different fins, I've listed some personal achievements in different types of fins while doing dynamics in the pool.

Some numbers:
Monofin: 180m
C4 30s: 152m*
Hockey fins: 140m**
No fins: 142m***

* Done some time ago. Limited by muscle fatigue
** Done in the middle of a fitness session, so a reasonable underestimate. Fins are Avanti Quattros.
*** Have done more, but not come up clean

Depth is a bit different, but I'm depth limited by equalisation not propulsion, so I can't give numbers. For repetitive diving, I try to go for the softest fins I can get away with. Material is not a big consideration.

</killjoy>

 

[demasoni]

Sorry Bro,

New fins won't improve bottom time; however, they would be carBONE! :martial

Technique, breathe-up, relaxation, and weighting are more important than thinking a piece of equipment will give you longer breath-holds.

Take a course - you in S. Florida? Do FII or PFI or Will T's course in the Bahamas.

 

[tuffstuff]

Yeah I want to take the course and I think I will buy a dive watch and save up for carbons after those 2 goals are met. Longfins definately have technique to them I noticed I go WAYYYYY faster and I become far more efficient if I keep my kicks to a certain frequency.
:friday
thanks guys!