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Omer Cayman ET review

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divebuddy80

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I own two omer cayman et spearguns, both bought about a year ago, one
black model with 95 cm barrel length and one camo 3D model with 130 cm
barrel length.

Since these are my first rubber driven spearguns, I can't say anything
about the functionality under water compared to other models. However,
technical problems not supposed to happen are obvious even to novices.

1. Both gun are leaking. Not tremendous such that the guns stop
floating after the spear is released, not such that one might see a
constant stream of air bubbles coming of the barrel. But every now and
then a bubble appears. This problem alone is not of an issue if it
were not triggering another one which I will describe below. However, I
tried to seal the gun, but I could only remove the nozzle, not the
muzzle. Even then, there is hardly any stuff which will stick on
the plastic of the nozzle to seal it. But when tacking off the nozzle,
I realized that the barrel is sealed it self, at least at the nozzle
side such that the amount of water which can run into it is limited.

2. The rubber of both guns are a pain. This applies to the rubber
bands and to the bungee. Omer rubber becomes brash very, especially
around the constrictor knot, and exudes a sticky liquid. I change the
bands before the broke, but with both bungees I witnessed their
failing while diving.

3. The metal bridle of the small gun broke while the gun was load which can
become quite dangerous when you have your hand on the barrel at that
time.

4. The color coating of the camo gun is peeling off because of
corrosion on the barrel. You must imagine that looking like the
blossom of a car varnish, which bulges because of the pressure induced
by the metal which expands due to corrosion. This is not an issue for
the barrel itself since the aluminum salt layer which grows on top of
the un-coated spots is salt water resistant. However, in couple of
month the coating as a whole will be gone, and the gun will be quite
shiny which might be a disadvantage in the water in terms of stalking
and in terms of sharks which like shiny stuff and contrasts.

5. Both guns are advertised of being able to handle spears between 6.5
and 7 mm. While a 7mm spear in the 130 cm gun works quite well, the
same diameter in the 95 cm gun can be a pain. Its simply that the
track of the small gun is so narrow that a water, decently loaded with
mud or sand will fill the gap between the spear and the track with
sediments while running through the gap. This is sufficient to make
the spear getting stuck in the track. This even more of a pain as you
will notice it only when you pull the trigger, thus the fish is gun.
To get the spear out of the track I always had to leave the water,
unload the rubber, hook the spear with the flopper between two rocks
and pull with all my weight (+80kg). Thus, when being around rocks,
beach and surf, a 7mm spear is not the first choice.

6. The loading butt of both guns is very sharp. Omer supplies a rubber
cover for it, but I lost both because they do not stay where they
supposed to stay especially when the gun has not a 90 degree angle to
your chest while loading. However, a person who can stand out pain
will be able to load both guns without a cover. Unfortunately the big
gun slipped of my chest once while I was pulling the rubber, and the
butt was sharp enough to cut a large tear into my wetsuit.

7. The shark fin tabs were, and still are, the most fragile part of
the whole construction. I lost about 6 from 3 different omer spears.
Since omer spears are not the cheapest, I really try to get
alternatives. However, beyond manufacturing problems the major reason
for the weak tabs is possible that the fixture is not corrosion
resistant. I once managed to hook up a spear, which had already lost
one fin, among rocks under water (under water at every tidal level).
After a couple of weeks I returned and could free the spear. But when
scratching off all the mussels and algaes, I also scratched off the
remaining two fins. This would not have happened with welded fins, and
a fin witch you can simply scratch off with a knife will definitely
not sustain the pressure of two power bands. Here, the problem of the
leaking gun reappears at the stage. The saltwater which had run into
barrel will run out very slowly. Thus, even when I had washed the gun
in fresh water, I noticed a layer of salt at certain places of the gun
a couple of days later. The layer was usually thickest where the
nozzle/muzzle meets the barrel. But since I stored the gun
horizontally, the layer covered the spear too, and probably induced
erosion of the shark fin fixture.


Finally I have replaced all rubbers by Rob Allen stuff, switched to
Dyneema wishbones and Dyneema bridles (life can be so simple), avoid
beaches with lots of sediments in the water (you can't see either)
when using the small gun, and replaced broken omer spears by other
brands (which can be a pain). However, I have contacted Omer because
of the peeling coating which I see as the most severe issue because
you can't do anything. I will post the outcome here.


Cheers
 
Excellent review, hope I read it before getting my Omer Cayman ET 105 a few months ago... I had a problem with the sharkfin, it broke off when I was loading the gun. The rubber flew and hit the palm of my hand, hurting me and ending a fishing trip one day early :/

I also had the rubber break when loading it, on the 2nd day the gun was in the water!!! Seems that this is really low quality rubber.

I didn't get the camo version, so I didn't have the problem of peeling of camo, or tried a different size shaft.
But, I encountered all the problems you are facing with your gun. Seems that it was an unwise purchase, so I am moving to Rob Allen Tuna 120 now ;)
 
If you are contemplating another aluminum rail gun with an enclosed track, please take a look at the recently released MAKO Spearguns AR-15 Gun. It has a fully enclosed track, uses American notch shafts and has an extremely robust trigger mech, with a Stainless steel housing and all stainless parts, including line release, trigger and sear..We use extremely strong south African shafts and the shark fin tabs are welded to the shaft.

http://www.makospearguns.com/AR15-American-Speargun-Enclosed-Track-p/maetr.htm

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If you are contemplating another aluminum rail gun with an enclosed track, please take a look at the recently released MAKO Spearguns AR-15 Gun. It has a fully enclosed track, uses American notch shafts and has an extremely robust trigger mech, with a Stainless steel housing and all stainless parts, including line release, trigger and sear..We use extremely strong south African shafts and the shark fin tabs are welded to the shaft.

http://www.makospearguns.com/AR15-American-Speargun-Enclosed-Track-p/maetr.htm

MAETR-2.jpg

Well I already made my purchase, with the Rob Allen, but I might make an order next year for an extra gun... Variety never hurts ;)
 
Well bought my Omer Cayman a new shaft so I can sell it... I then decided to give it a second try before selling it. The second time I was loading the gun, the welded on sharkfin broke, the rubber went loose and metal wishbone nearly cut off my finger. Learned a lesson, never use metal wishbones or sharkfin shafts, even welded ones. Notched shafts are safer
 
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Well bought my Omer Cayman a new shaft so I can sell it... I then decided to give it a second try before selling it. The second time I was loading the gun, the welded on sharkfin broke, the rubber went loose and metal wishbone nearly cut off my finger. Learned a lesson, never use metal wishbones or sharkfin shafts, even welded ones. Notched shafts are safer

Rather than deciding to always use notched shafts which are weakened simply due to the reduced cross sectional area of the shaft, you might consider using latex bands which use "soft" dynema wishbones which are much more forgiving of a "mis-load" (i.e., missing a notch or tab). Failure of a spear tab is very rare and should theoretically NEVER occur on a welded shaft.


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I have had two omer Shafts sharkfin brake. The first shaft after a couple of days in the water, the second after only two shots.

I know for fact that welds don't work well under fatigue loading and this can cause sudden failure. This is due to weld defects, which can't be avoided no matter what welding technique used.

Notched shafts are definitely weaker and easier to break under less load, due to higher stress cause of the reduced cross section area. However, are safer than having a sharkfin fly and nearly cutting my finger off.

I agree with you on the softer dynema wishbone and I have done my Omer Cayman with them after my latest accident. Luckily, my RA guns come rigged with the Dynema wishbones.

Here is a photo of my finger after my latest incident with the Omer Shaft
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That looks horrible!
I am surprised that you had two tabs break, that was really bad luck.
I am a fan of shark fin tabs myself, I have never had one break as yet!
 
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The cayman et 95 has impeccable accuracy from my experience while I haven't had a shaft break on me it looks like it could be a design flaw in the Omer brand of sharkfin shafts, MAKO do you sell a shaft that would be compatible with the Cayman Et 95?
 
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The cayman et 95 has impeccable accuracy from my experience while I haven't had a shaft break on me it looks like it could be a design flaw i

That's been my experience with the ET 105 as well - super accurate and really hard hitting with a pair of short 16s on it.
Never had an issue with shark fins breaking - thankfully!



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It was a really accurate gun and quite powerful with the 16mm bands, till I had my two unpleasant incidents with sharkfins breaking on two different Omer Shafts. So better be careful and inspect the sharkfin and see if it is still holding before going in the water.
 
Yes our euro shafts should work. We have mini- shark fin shaft in the lengths you might want.

http://www.makospearguns.com/product-p/msfs.htm
Just wondering how will the monoline be attached at the back of the spear and not get stuck in the enclosed track?? The line has to be done in the shark fin and this is not possible in the mini-sharkfin :(

The Cayman ET is designed for a 6,75mm shaft but the 7mm shaft fits without a problem
 
Also, tried to do an order on your website, but it seems that you don't ship to Egypt. The only option available is the US
 
We accept pay pal for international orders. If you want to get an accurate quote for international shipping, please send the list of products and your address to info@makospeargun.com and we will get back within one business day.

For an enclosed track gun, there is no option to connect to the rear of the shaft, so we use a full size shark fin shaft. Sorry but i provided the wrong link.. this is the correct one for the euro shafts with the shark fin tabs....


http://www.makospearguns.com/product-p/m3hpsfs.htm
 
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