Pastor
Oh my God .. you freaked them all out .. ! no one is even saying a single word ! .. lol .. come on .. I'm just kidding.
Originally posted by Pastor:
This is a diving forum
Originally posted by Adolphin:
we need to bring this thread to its original direction .. we can talk about this subject as much as we want in a proper forum, maybe not DB since it's a speciality forum.
Yes Pastor, you are right, and this is exactely what I said as you can read above ..
Still, I'll say this comment and it will be the last (lol .. no realy the last time, any other posts that has nothing to do with commonerg original purpose of putting this thread, I'll answer it by private messages).
I don't understand why you always bring it back to cultural difference ! .. I'm talking physics and chemistry of the human body .. how any human body would react toward alcohol concuming .. this is pure physics and chemistry my friend .. if you have any information opposit to this, please say it, this is all what this thread is about, now maybe I was little too general in my posts, the scope of this thread is related to alcohol effects on freediving (which is more specific than what I've said), but still, my comments has alot to do with the subject.
The idea of alcohol being bad for the physical part but good for the sychological part of human health !! come on, give me abreak .. alcohol is known to be a depressent .. when you drink it, it makes you feel good because it turns your senses off (at least turn it down), your memory becomes weaker, your sight, your balance .. every thing, but hey! when you wake up next day, the depressing effect starts, it's right that you where hiding away from your problems and turn downs for few hours, but during that time (being under the effect of alcohol) you are not ready to face those problems (coz your senses are less sharp, you are narrow minded as we say), now when you are awake, you are more depressed than what you were before drinking (and the last thing you want to have as a back up is to be more depressed when it comes to problem solving and facing day to day challenges), and don't think that I'm talking about only when you get realy drunk! .. no, read research and you will know that it's an acumulating substance, it's effect is always there, it just get stronger with higher concentrations in the body .. so what's the point of alcohol being good for sychology !!
I think the points I'm talking about are so clear, all specialised research centers back it up, but it's just like when you talk to smokers about how bad smoking is to their health, they would tend to bring reasons on why would they keep doing it, usually nonsenses, if you keep on reminding them of negative effects, they sooner or later opens the cultural matter, and the sychological issues, and that although it's bad but it's nice ! .. I understand the ethical problem here: if I accept that what I'm doing is wrong then I'll have to stop doing it, now I know I just can not stop it, maybe I can reduce it, soooo, well, I'll have then to deffend that it's not
that bad specially that I'm not doing it that often or that strong,I have to defend the subject this way, otherwise I wont be able to release the feeling of being guilty for doing
the bad thing .
Coming to the cultural thing, please .. the cultural part about drinking alcohol is only about how easy it is to accept drinking, versus how easy it is to accept not to drink (in the socity), since in your culture it's easier to drink rather than not to drink (means it's hard to go social with out accepting a glass or two of alcohol). Now in my socity, tea and coffe are very important socially, it could be looked at as an insult if I visit somebody's house and not drink one of the two -actually in UAE it's more the coffe side ..
.. ok, let me tell you that I stopped drinking both for the last 14 years ! .. and still I'm living in the socity, yet social .. and well accepted by the socity. Anyway, it's just important that we stop talking about the social differences, coz it is not related to our subject here, it's all about science, about health.
Now Pastor, regarding the idea that neither one is right and neither is wrong, I could accept it for now if you mean to talk about the cultures, if you are talking about the scientific findings then you know clearly that there is only one piece of information about every physical issue that could be addressed as "Fact" while other pieces of information that has a conflict with the so called "Scientific Fact" will be accordingly concedered scientifically "wrong" .. have a nice day.
Dive safe ..
on the news this morning the man was telling me that alcohol was good for 