Aspetto (or making noises at the fish)

[andycornish]

After reading a few ways people make noises, watching badlander's video and listening to what I have heard other people do just wondered what different people's technique is.

What I am doing at the moment is making a deep grunting noise every 5-10 seconds on the way down and then when at the bottom when things start to turn up stop.

Also is a long and deep rather than short and sharp.

Any advice and different techniques appreciated.

 

[watermandrew]

Anybody tried plucking their bungee? Not a euphemism haha, I like the vibrating sound it makes in the tide though.
Some people scratch rocks and throw sand, maybe crushing shells might spark some interest? Be interesting to hear what tactics are used, good thread

 

[andycornish]

Anybody tried plucking their bungee? Not a euphemism haha, I like the vibrating sound it makes in the tide though.

Tried plucking the bands and it never seems to work, this maybe due to it not making much noise

 

[SurfnSpear]

Somebody far wiser than me I'm sure, once said, that a different tactic, at a different time and in different conditions may work...:t
In the context of Aspetto/Agachon...ambush, whatever, the fish are curious and generally know something is worth investigating in the vicinity. Freedive technique, stealth and wise use of cover for your firing point tend to focus my mind....however, that said, I have tried grunts, twangs etc...but for me its not generally something I resort to first off, for fear of doing my upcoming session dives in an area a disservice and perhaps putting a shoal or a holed up fish on edge.

 

[shiny1]

On this day in poor viz(the camera did it justice) i couldnt see down through the stringweed so a few croaks while laying on the bottom worked
I have had Triggers,Mullet,Pollack and even Gts,Dogtooth Tuna while on trips abroad come in to croaking when all else fails.



It also works in clear conditions when you want them to come to you rather than trying to get close enough for a shot.

 

[andycornish]

Shiny1 did you find that you can see the bass before they can see you when the vis is poor ? My thought was when the vis is not as good, you can see them a lot easier as they are moving but they find it harder to identify you as you are still ?

A few weeks ago the vis was 2-3m tops and the bass were coming a lot closer than normal when the vis is 4-5m+.

 

[shiny1]

I think they like to see what the threat is so come in close to investigate. When its good viz they dont need to come so close.

 

[watermandrew]

Any way to attract flatties? How about a spoon on a length of mono, chuck it on the surface and drag towards you within vis range?!

 

[andycornish]

I relate hunting flatties more to shellfish that fish. Its more look at the sand, your eyes will pick them out after seeing them a few times. Night dives are good for flatties

 

[azapa]

Shiny1 did you find that you can see the bass before they can see you when the vis is poor ? My thought was when the vis is not as good, you can see them a lot easier as they are moving but they find it harder to identify you as you are still ?

A few weeks ago the vis was 2-3m tops and the bass were coming a lot closer than normal when the vis is 4-5m+.

Unfortunately I have never speared in your waters, but would love too.

My general opinion though: unless you are already very well holed up in an aspeto, fish will always see/sense you before you see them. Some fish react with curiosity (get closer) or indifference (don't seem to care and keep the same relative difference), many just bolt away. But I believe they always know where we are. This starts with the duck dive and fining down, and especially in clear waters, you won't notice much, but they will all bolt/hide.

I think I normally get more fish on murky days (2 to 5m viz) because they don't see the duck dive or swim down so well, not actually because of a long aspeto.

 

[andycornish]

Unfortunately I have never speared in your waters, but would love too.

I think I normally get more fish on murky days (2 to 5m viz) because they don't see the duck dive or swim down so well, not actually because of a long aspeto.

I would equally love to spear somewhere 5m viz is considered bad ! My last dive the worst viz was in the top 1-2m and I can drop down on top of a fish and it wont see me until I get near the bottom. I try to keep the duck dives as silent as possible, but do not find that they will see me on the way down, (assuming this as I cant see them). I try to head down and be hiding in the weed still as soon as possible so there is less of a chance they will see my unknown shape.

 

[azapa]

haha, sorry about the Viz. Look at this video to see my springtime bloom conditions...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1-fJnmmZEw]Rollizo Mala Viz - YouTube[/ame]

I try not to look around on the way down, just head looking out at 90 degrees to body. Helps relaxation and equalization too.

Sort of nonchalance. Then on settling on the bottom start scanning.

 

[bobandsausage]

I tried it a few weeks ago - dived down in the usual Brighton murk and settled into the bottom. Looking around I saw a nice bass sitting vertically next to a pier leg and it hadn't spotted me. It would have been a bit of an epic shot, so I just clicked my tongue on the roof of my mouth and he came over to investigate...