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Cant Get My New Suit On
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Use lube or you'll tear the suit or become trapped and have to call the fire department to extricate you.
Use cheap unscented hair conditioner. Put it in a squeeze bottle diluted with water somewhere around 4 parts water to 1 part conditioner. You can use it straight but that's wasteful.
Squirt some in the jacket and pants. Spread it around so all internal surfaces are coated- especially the arms, shoulders, and neck area. Pull on the pants, pull on the jacket. Don't panic.
Taking it off you basically peel it inside-out. It's much easier with help. In fact I think attempting to remove a wetsuit jacket by yourself is the real reason solo freediving is considered so dangerous.
Use cheap unscented hair conditioner. Put it in a squeeze bottle diluted with water somewhere around 4 parts water to 1 part conditioner. You can use it straight but that's wasteful.
Squirt some in the jacket and pants. Spread it around so all internal surfaces are coated- especially the arms, shoulders, and neck area. Pull on the pants, pull on the jacket. Don't panic.
Taking it off you basically peel it inside-out. It's much easier with help. In fact I think attempting to remove a wetsuit jacket by yourself is the real reason solo freediving is considered so dangerous.
Here is what I do:
Get the inside of the suit completely wet.
Add diluted Hair conditioner - down the arms and most especially in the armpit and along the side -and neck.
If the suit is nylon outside - grab it and rub the inside surfaces against eachother to distribute the condtioner. (On my 6 mil smoothskin suit I actually put the HC on with the suit inside out - I distribute it by hand and end up using much less)
The bottoms need less - mostly along the lower leg - but get them wet inside.
Get the inside of the suit completely wet.
Add diluted Hair conditioner - down the arms and most especially in the armpit and along the side -and neck.
If the suit is nylon outside - grab it and rub the inside surfaces against eachother to distribute the condtioner. (On my 6 mil smoothskin suit I actually put the HC on with the suit inside out - I distribute it by hand and end up using much less)
The bottoms need less - mostly along the lower leg - but get them wet inside.
Another option is talcum powder, but the lube is better.
A friend of mine who was braver than me used to jump naked into the 10C water and just put it on in water, which works too.
But yes lube is best. And IMO, 1/10-20 parts lube/water is better, otherwise I tend to slide around inside the suit. Ideally you want slippery but firm.
There is also the ELIOS guide on the proper donning/doffing that is very important to learn if you want the suit to last.
Cheers and you will see that it's worth the extra effort.
Erik
A friend of mine who was braver than me used to jump naked into the 10C water and just put it on in water, which works too.
But yes lube is best. And IMO, 1/10-20 parts lube/water is better, otherwise I tend to slide around inside the suit. Ideally you want slippery but firm.
There is also the ELIOS guide on the proper donning/doffing that is very important to learn if you want the suit to last.
Cheers and you will see that it's worth the extra effort.
Erik
am I so crazy considering to order a glideskin titanium lining suit like this one:
Pesca team 7mm ultraspan CRESSI Apnea Trajes Spain Submarinismo Scuba store .com
I nearly always dive from my beach house, getting ready in the front room, and the whole body soapy thing would mess the place up .......
I have a Titanium lined suit now and like it. Are open cell that much warmer or better?? Thanks, bit OT, but thanks..
Pesca team 7mm ultraspan CRESSI Apnea Trajes Spain Submarinismo Scuba store .com
I nearly always dive from my beach house, getting ready in the front room, and the whole body soapy thing would mess the place up .......
I have a Titanium lined suit now and like it. Are open cell that much warmer or better?? Thanks, bit OT, but thanks..
Having used a number of "Titanium" lined suits, open cell is noticeably better.
In my opinion the best compromise on the market the right now is the Heiwa Neoprene wit the "new black coating" also known as the "black shadow" coating. It is applied to open-cell neoprene and makes it easy to slide into, but really seals around you body and provides excellent warmth.
No idea who else sells it other than elios.
I don't find lube that hard to use. I prefer to put it on me and then slide into the wetsuit. Put apparently I just do things backwards
In my opinion the best compromise on the market the right now is the Heiwa Neoprene wit the "new black coating" also known as the "black shadow" coating. It is applied to open-cell neoprene and makes it easy to slide into, but really seals around you body and provides excellent warmth.
No idea who else sells it other than elios.
I don't find lube that hard to use. I prefer to put it on me and then slide into the wetsuit. Put apparently I just do things backwards
Having used a number of "Titanium" lined suits, open cell is noticeably better.
In my opinion the best compromise on the market the right now is the Heiwa Neoprene wit the "new black coating" also known as the "black shadow" coating. It is applied to open-cell neoprene and makes it easy to slide into, but really seals around you body and provides excellent warmth.
No idea who else sells it other than elios.
I don't find lube that hard to use. I prefer to put it on me and then slide into the wetsuit. Put apparently I just do things backwards
My opinion also .... My elios is 5 mm smooth/new black coating & i use corn starch to slide into it in which corn starch is similar to talcum powder but much slippery though.....
In 48 de. F water it's nice being dry when getting out of the water.....
How long are you guys staying in sub 50F water with these 5mm elios suits? I get cold in 1 1/2 hours with my suit in 11deg C (52F) it is 6/7/9 one piece titanium lined semi dry from Xcel.
I would like to compete in national spearfishing heats, each being (stupidly IMHO, but I don't make the rules) 4 hours long. The locals all use 7mm yamamoto local brews, with open cell inside. I can't see anything ONLY 5mm ever doing the job. Thoughts please. Thanks.
I would like to compete in national spearfishing heats, each being (stupidly IMHO, but I don't make the rules) 4 hours long. The locals all use 7mm yamamoto local brews, with open cell inside. I can't see anything ONLY 5mm ever doing the job. Thoughts please. Thanks.