Footpocket angle data

[ADR]

For those interested in footpocket angles here is some data from my current fins

Waterway Model 1or2 - 0 degrees
Leaderfins Hyper - 11 degrees
Waterway Glide - 16 degrees
Hyperfins - 30 degrees

 

[BennyB]

Interesting Andy. I think it's quite clear by feel between the Glide and the Hyperfin. And I think my old Kershkov had a touch more angle than the Hyperfin does, though it's a tiny difference.

So when am I going to be able to buy an Andyfin? Andynov?

 

[monkeyhatfork]

what do you think would be the max, or optimal angle for a footpocket if you had control over it's design?

 

[BennyB]

I think that depends on the individual. The main idea of the angle is so that in dynamic glide (or constant weight sink phase) you want to relax your legs and have the fin in the horizontal (or vertical for CW) position. Some people when they relax their legs have more angle in the knee than others. The angle in the monofin is there to compensate for this.

It seems that the higher angled fins are better for the majority.

Cheers,
Ben

 

[Mullins]

Isn't everybody capable of keeping their legs straight? I reckon it might just be the lack of fin angle that causes people to 'relax' into a bent-legs posture.

That 30 degree angle on the hyper is great, I could even use just a littlebit more...

 

[Fondueset]

I'm currently using a waterway nemo hard, but since this is my new obsession I, naturally, want more. I'd like to get experienced opinions on footpockets, blade size etc. etc. (the nemo is very comfortable - six hour dives with a 10 minute rest between when its warm). I've been talking with leaderfins about their free flier. They suggested not changing footpockets. This would be primarily a recreational freediving fin.

 

[apneaboy]

How easy are the Hyperfins to get hold of??

 

[BennyB]

I didn't have too much trouble - emailed the guy, he took a couple of days to email back then we conversed for about a week then I sent the money and within about 3 weeks I had a fin - supposed to take a week or 2 to make and about a week to send to the UK.

Come have a play with mine next time you're in town.

Cheers,
Ben

 

[apneaboy]

Cheers Benny, will do.

While i'm there can i try your fin though big boy?

 

[BennyB]

Sure can, after we go to dinner first though, I know a great place in the Oxo Tower, i'll take you up there...

There's a review in this thread http://forums.deeperblue.net/beach-bar/75677-eating-out-london.html

 

[Mullins]

Apparently the lunocet is going to be user-adjustable. Would be interesting to see what angles people settled on given the chance to experiment and make their own adjustments.

 

[ADR]

the footage of the lunocet is really interesting. He seems to be working very hard given the effeciency claims of the design

 

[steff]

This may be a dumb question, but if you want to change the angle of your foot pockets, couldn't you just order your foot pocket slightly larger than what you think you'd need, then build up the inside of the pocket? You could even do it in incremental layers, so you could figure out what the optimum angle would be for you (which I would assume would depend on the flexibility of your foot)?

steff

 

[ADR]

Hi steff

unfortunately the size relates mostly to the length and not the height, otherwise it would be a good idea

 

[steff]

OK - so width is definitely more important than length... I'll have to remember that one (although according to the pamphlet you left us under the windscreen wipers, I'm sure they said it was all about the length)! rofl(sorry, I just couldn't resist)

I must just have odd shaped feet then, cause I've got a block of minicell foam at home that I was going to carve up... I'll let you know how it goes.



steff

 

[ADR]

So when am I going to be able to buy an Andyfin? Andynov?

Nice one Benny and there have been over a dozen Andynov complete production or heavily modified fins. UnfortunatelyI haven't nailed it yet but I'm just thinking now of having another go....It will however be a one only production run

 

[ADR]

a pamphlet ??....I don't know what you are talking about

You can blame that on Ant Williams as I'm pleading the 5th.

 

[Kars]

WW nemo has 12 degrees,

What's the angle of the Specialfins monofins?

Kars

 

[Jon]

The NEMO has 12 degrees!?

Mine didn't seem to have any at all- at least it didn't have any compared to my Specialfins. If the NEMO really does have 12 the Specialfins has got to have at least 30.rofl

I have very stiff ankles and found the NEMO to be somewhat ineffective with my kick- as compared to my Specialfins. I know that the pockets aren't as tight fitting as the Glide/Andropov/Hyper but they are quite a bit more comfortable for hours of enjoyment in the water. The blade angle is mainly in the bend of the blade itself, although a little bit of it is added through the footpocket as well.

I don't have any photos from the side, but my NEMO was flat when placed next to the Specialfins monos that I own. Here's a shot from the top.

Jon

 

[Fondueset]

I think the Leaderfins also have more angle than the nemo - but it does definitely have an angle.