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Idea for a pneumatic gun

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Interesting to watch your designs and development!

Forgive me for asking, but what design features do you want in your design?

How do you load the gun? How much force do you need?

Light piston all in Delrin, simple reliable and secure design. Max air flow to act on piston. Gun might be loaded as usual as other guns, also incremental in smaller steps. Could be pressurized using the shaft with modified piston or the regular piston similar as Zelinka speargun. Springs and O-rings (two) could be replaced with some other kind of special sealing, but this is easier to put together using common parts. Power adjustment might be also possible restricting the opening for air flow.
 
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More simple design with power regulator:
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Slightly different layout of elements. It could work without the parts in the orange box.

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To be more clear...
This would work even with damaged right O-ring on the piston, but the influence of parasitic air would in that case be higher what means that after loading the shaft it would be pushed few cm to the left.

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The stored energy in a cocked to shoot hydropneumatic gun will be used to move the sliding masses inside the gun as well as propel the spear. Generally the masses are an annular piston carrying inner and outer "O" rings that seal on the respective tubing walls of the exterior of the inner barrel tube and the interior of the outer tank tube, such as is used in an "Aquatech" speargun; plus a releasing valve that controls the opening and closing action of the rear of the inner barrel. The releasing valve is usually small, so has a low mass.

In this new gun design the annular piston is now a combination of the inner barrel tube, the rear moving bulkhead (or sealed periphery disk) and the multi-grooved (rack section) moving front bulkhead that are all rigidly connected together to create one large assembly. Gun energy stored from muzzle loading effort has to drive this assembly rearwards when the gun shoots, which has much more mass than in guns such as the "Aquatech". Therefore less energy will be available for spear propulsion as to move these large internal sliding parts the energy has to come from somewhere.
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I note that the spear tip head diameter is large enough so that the spear is not pushed right through the inner barrel as otherwise the water would exit the gun without a shot by running forwards around the spear shaft while it was still in the inner barrel, thus when that diametrical step hits the front edge of the sliding bulkhead that is the end of the loading stroke. You could pull the spear out and execute another muzzle loading action which would advance the inner barrel to another tooth position on the cylindrical rack, but that makes the gun longer each time you do it.

The rack on the sliding front bulkhead could pick up grit and scratch the bore inside the yellow part (front fixed bulkhead), maybe not a problem is use, but it will be when servicing the gun and dismantling and reassembling it, but that depends on how the gun actually goes together in terms of the order of assembly. A forward latching gun, but the latch is on the sliding inner barrel assembly, not the spear.

As hydropneumatic spearguns have thick wall tanks (the tank holds the gun ends together and therefore requires screw threads) the smaller models have little recoil, so not really an advantage to have a large mass flying backwards in the gun during the shot as a counter to the spear moving the other way.

Interesting idea, but it does not offer any advantages over the current designs and machining a cylindrical rack is a time consuming task and discards a lot of scrap metal for production guns, but maybe OK for a few guns on a limited basis.

A diagram is attached to help explain the points made above.
 
Basically an "RPS-3" style of speargun, but using a sliding column sear as is used in the "Taimen" pneumatic (pneumovacuum) speargun. As the sear tooth area is flooded in this gun, the sliding column sear has to be biased by a coil spring. In the "Taimen" compressed air pressure inside the gun does that job. The larger sliding mass of a combined inner barrel and annular piston has the same implications as before, hence it would be better to simply use a sliding annular piston as shown here (refer revised diagram). However this has already been done by modifying "RPS-3" spearguns with sliding annular pistons to eliminate the standard rubber hose enveloping a multi-small port ventilated inner barrel tube, the rear of the replacement non-vented inner barrel being open as shown on this diagram. Hence nothing really new here, plus this second version of a sliding inner barrel speargun cannot use extra muzzle pumping spear strokes. Also the gun would use a front tied spear as there is no stop on the spear tail, ditto for the previous design.
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I suppose this speargun would be pretty noisy during shot. The shaft is rubbing inner barrel.

An another version:

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[QUOTE = "хлопушки Пит, должность: 912238, член: 18674"] их пневматическое оружие все с помощью шариковой хвост копье, которое было проведено в пистолете три цанги челюстей типа, расположенных на нос нейлон поршня, охвативший стальной шарик. Когда поршень ударил намордник челюсти открылись автоматически, и пусть копье идти. Очень инновационный, но дорого! [/ QUOTE]
Hello ! Would not you could to show a chart is a sketch of gun from three by a paw by a collet? I have an analogical project ! I want to compare for the purpose a care from plagiarism!
Здравствуйте ! Не могли бы Вы показать схему - эскиз ружья с трех лапой цангой? Имею аналогичный проект ! Хочу сравнить на предмет ухода от плагиата!
 
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