I dont understand those figures mate?
I thought 100 represented the metric measurment 100 cm but that is just about 40 inches long?
Most of us Europeans use 75 - 110 guns & they are generally aimed at fish in the 2 - 15lb range.
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Mako spearguns!
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I dont understand those figures mate?
I thought 100 represented the metric measurment 100 cm but that is just about 40 inches long?
Most of us Europeans use 75 - 110 guns & they are generally aimed at fish in the 2 - 15lb range.
I don't either. According to my metric converter,
100cm = 39.4 inches
110 = 43.3 inches
Of course those are just barrel lengths, but even adding something for the handle leaves them well short of what most of us consider adequate for a white sea bass or yellowtail.
Maybe the issue here is the euro size is the size of the barrel for example the one105 the barrel is 105 the entire gun is probably around 55 to 60 inches.
He already asked me in a PM, but he apparently didn't like my answer, so he's looking for another opinion
I told him that either Mako was too small to be a good wsb gun, although it should work for reef fish. My assassin friend Dam Nguyen uses a three band Wong 50" GR gun with great success, but he is a special case. Most of us mortals find a three band 55" more useful in all but the poorist vis.
Roger that.... my WSB gun is 48'' mech to band hole. This forces me to have to be very sweet to them If I want to take them home.:friday
I just wanted to see if Bill recognizes the cup?
Cheers, Don
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That is a 1200 euro gun size - euro guns are measured in the same way from band fixing to mech but air guns are measured in total length of gun (excluding spear).
I think the problem is that Mako may be including the shaft over hang in its overall length figures that he is quoting. I think my 55" Wong has about 14 inches of overhang including the slip tip, so that would make it a 69" gun.
If Mako is in fact doing that, it seems misleading. A user could choose shafts with various amounts of overhang, but what matters is band stretch.
If Mako is in fact doing that, it seems misleading. A user could choose shafts with various amounts of overhang, but what matters is band stretch.
In that case, it either has a hell of a long handle to bring total length up to 61.5", or maybe thedodd is just getting bad information some how.
Bill, here is the chart (about halfway down page):
MAKO Spearguns - Oceanic Pro Railgun
Based on this, what gun is a good choice?
MAKO Spearguns - Oceanic Pro Railgun
Based on this, what gun is a good choice?
Aha! Thanks. Its obvious they are including the shaft overhang in total length. I guess that's valuable info if you are trying to buy a bag or box to put it in, but the barrel length is what is related to power and range.
For what? Calicos, or white sea bass and yellowtail, or grouper in caves, etc.?
I'm of the opinion that when Euro style guns get long enough to have enough power for larger fish, then they also get too hard to swing in the kelp. I know people can make it work, but I think mid-handle guns are more practical because the can be long enough to have power but still swing easy because of the mid handle. But that's just my bias.
well i am into eventually getting a specific wsb gun but for now if im out cruising the kelp shooting other kinds of fish and a wsb swims by say 40 lbs at 10-12 ft can i bust him with this gun and penetrate the fish and toggle the flopper? How far are most of your wsb shots Bill and Don?
I don't like tearing off fish so I rarely pull on Wsb beyond 15 ', even
If my gun can kill at 20. If I see the dorsal fin twitch upward, I pull the trigger
if I'm in range. A millisecond later they can launch.
Great talking to you on the mobil mate.
Cheers, Don
If my gun can kill at 20. If I see the dorsal fin twitch upward, I pull the trigger
if I'm in range. A millisecond later they can launch.
Great talking to you on the mobil mate.
Cheers, Don
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I just placed the only vote for the 100cm Mako.
Length depends on local conditions, esp. visibility - that can be a really important choice. I don't know your local conditions, so I cannot really provide good advice on that, although in general I find I get far more use out of my smallest gun in the murkey waters of Britain, and its easier and more fun to use. Prob. safest to get whatever the rest of the locals use.
***I'm sure any of the models mentioned would prove effective and satisfying - so don't worry too much.***
Sporasub has a good reputation (like Omer's Lexus range - and Omer are seem to be the premier spearing innovator for the masses) but Sporasub products seem over the top expensive to me. No doubt well designed. There was quite a bit of excitement about the One.
Austin's Diving Center: Sporasub One Speargun, Sporasub
The Mako is a railgun, which is a tried and tested design (Makos seem to have much in common with Rabitechs - much loved by Miles). Like the Rabitechs, Rob Allens, etc. I would expect this to be very well equipped for large game fish. Hand friendly soft Dyneema wishbones are a good feature.
MAKO Spearguns - Store
[BTW I use Omer XXVs and a Rob Allen railgun & love both. The 75cm XXV is currently my "main squeeze" - re-equipped with a dyneema wishbone]
Length depends on local conditions, esp. visibility - that can be a really important choice. I don't know your local conditions, so I cannot really provide good advice on that, although in general I find I get far more use out of my smallest gun in the murkey waters of Britain, and its easier and more fun to use. Prob. safest to get whatever the rest of the locals use.
***I'm sure any of the models mentioned would prove effective and satisfying - so don't worry too much.***
Sporasub has a good reputation (like Omer's Lexus range - and Omer are seem to be the premier spearing innovator for the masses) but Sporasub products seem over the top expensive to me. No doubt well designed. There was quite a bit of excitement about the One.
Austin's Diving Center: Sporasub One Speargun, Sporasub
The Mako is a railgun, which is a tried and tested design (Makos seem to have much in common with Rabitechs - much loved by Miles). Like the Rabitechs, Rob Allens, etc. I would expect this to be very well equipped for large game fish. Hand friendly soft Dyneema wishbones are a good feature.
MAKO Spearguns - Store
[BTW I use Omer XXVs and a Rob Allen railgun & love both. The 75cm XXV is currently my "main squeeze" - re-equipped with a dyneema wishbone]
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Based on Don's info the One105 would be too small, the only omer gun big enough is the HF130. The best prices for them are with JimDoe or ScubasWorld.
Don how about the HF130, would that work for WSB ? You've mention the size 120 to be ideal, so perhaps 130 would be on the long side.
Don how about the HF130, would that work for WSB ? You've mention the size 120 to be ideal, so perhaps 130 would be on the long side.
The ''ideal'' gun has a lot to do with the hunter, all the guns you list can Kill
big WSB in the right hands. I like the Hf 130 allot for a sniper type gun.
Don
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Is Jim Doe still in business? His phone numbers are dead since he moved south.
I think he is, try "PM" him, I bought something from him late last year. One of his website still up.
The Spearfishing Store
I also have an email contact, but the address is in my office computer, I will send you tomorrow.
The Spearfishing Store
I also have an email contact, but the address is in my office computer, I will send you tomorrow.
Ok fellas the box has been unwrapped ive suited up and tested my new piece! It feels like a sniper rifle compared to my old jbl. It is so silent underwater all u hear is i little click when it goes off. It tracks nicely and stays very level when i hold it out in front of me. The reel has a nice drag and a retractable handle. I havent got to test it on a Wsb ,but im taking fish in the 4lb range at 10 to 12 feet and the shaft is going all the way through them down to the mono bungee! Its not too much in the kelp nor the reefs, now instead of blasting them as soon as i see them i can just ignore the fish and let them get a little further away before shooting. If nothing else it will be a great gun to have in the quiver once i get a big game gun. Thanks again for the input guys im glad i made the choice i did!!