Mono line vs dyneema

[Bill McIntyre]

Thanks.

 

[denmyos]

Its also called Aussie Line.

I still have no luck finding it in europe.
So i orderer some samples of dyneema and wishbone dyneema to see what works best.
I ordered it from here www.scubastore.com

 

[hydroid]

I have the stuff from Benthic but somehow it wraps up in the bands when I shoot stopping the shaft. Doesn't do it all the time, about 50%.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

I have the stuff from Benthic but somehow it wraps up in the bands when I shoot stopping the shaft. Doesn't do it all the time, about 50%.

That's not good. Do you use a gun with the line up on top next to the bands? For years I've used guns like the Wongs that have a side line release which keeps the line away from the bands pretty well. But when I got an Abbelan with a reverse mechanism, it concerned me that the line was up there next to the bands so I did a little modification. I put a loop of stainless wire in the side of the gun so that it routed the line lower. Of course a pin would have worked just as well, but the loop lets me run the breakaway bungee through it so that the float line can't pull the bungee of of the line release if it pulls sideways.

Of course it helps that my Abellans are wood. I'm not sure I'd want to drill into carbon fiber or aluminum. I like wood because I can drill holes in it.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Sorry. I tried to attach photos, but got a message that they were too large for the server to process. They weren't any bigger than others I've posted all along. Maybe our new software changes something.

Edit- Stephen says its a bug and they are working on it.

 

[hydroid]

Thanks for your reply Bill. Maybe I can't make some mods. I shoot a 130 Budak Power (teak).

 

[Bill McIntyre]

I hope I can post photos soon. But if you send me an email at the address in my sig line I can reply with photos.

 

[hydroid]

Hey Bill, I sent you a PM.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Got it. Photos on the way.

 

[hydroid]

Thanks Bill, got the pics.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Stephen says the server problem is fixed so I’m testing it even though I already emailed the photos.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

I failed again.

 

[SubSub]

I failed again.

10mb limit. Get a shitty cam! [emoji6][emoji28]

 

[marco15499]

I'm using the stiff dyneema succesfully for more than a year now. I has performed like a dream for me shooting big reef fish and also blue water. I don't trust crimps in dyneema lines, so I use the knot Rob Allen recommends in his videos.



Bill: nice to see you around. Hope you're healing fast

 

[spearomaniac]

There is brands with more flexible mono.

 

[popgun pete]

Jinkai make a quality monofilament that many spearos use for their shooting lines. The slick outer surface is what makes mono low drag as it is hauled through the water by the shaft. Braided lines and woven cords have that little extra surface drag that adds up over a longer line length. Low drag is important over the maximum flight distance to the target, after that the line needs to be strong more than slick. A nick in mono and it will break well under the stated breaking limit as all the "eggs are in the one basket", one strand of line! The stretchiness of mono supplies that degree of give which stops it from snapping as tensile load goes up and accommodates the jerks, up to a certain yield point.

http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=137725

 

[Bill McIntyre]

I see that I tried to attach photos of my dynemma long ago but was unable. I'll try again.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Yippee, it worked. See post 24 for an explanation and rationale for this rigging. Until I tried this stuff I had used 400 pound mono for many years, but I think this stiff spectra has less drag. You may ask why I didn't try 300 pound mono. Good question. In Southern California many spearos place a premium on being able to see their shooting line when a fish is wrapped up in kelp in poor visibility. It helps prevent cutting your shooting line with kelp, or even worse getting tangled in the shooting line. The only line we know of that is really high vis is this Momoi 400 pound outrigger mono, so a lot of divers use it. Other lines may be more flexible or have other attributes but we want the line to be easy to see. This stiff spectra comes in a bright green color, so that's why I was willing to try it. The 1.4 mm is rated at 330 pounds, and it's not going to get nicked like mono. It's very hard to cut it with your knife. https://benthicoceansports.com/products/1-4mm-stiff-dyneema

Unfortunately I was out of the water most of this last season with a hole in my leg so I haven't taken many shots with the spectra. If I decide I don't like it, Neptonics is selling a similar hi vis mono in 200 pound test. https://neptonics.com/mono-spearfishing-line-and-crimps/

It should be low drag, but I'd worry about nicks.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Sorry. I looked back at earlier posts and saw that I’ve mostly repeated myself. I guess you can see whether I contradicted myself.

 

[hydroid]

It may be great on most rigs but I'll never use it again, cost me a $100 shaft, and never could stop the tangles.