Nemo vs Omer Rekord vs C4 Mustang

[jrgtlm]

Dear Friends,


I have a Gara 2000 HF, I´m thinking in buy a new one,
Please, let me know your comments, about these three fins!!! which one is better. I having heard excelent things about nemo, but I don´t know the fin.
I´m 1,69m 78kg,
Deep: 20-25m

Looking forward to your reply

Best Regards

 

[larsemil]

In my humble opinion there is no need for you to buy a new fin yet. Not for going deeper 2000hf is a good fin and it can take you much deeper.

I am a big fan of NOT getting the best equipment right away, i have seen people do 30m with small plastic fins, as they later came to their stop and changed gear they added several meters.

But if you are diving 20-25 meters, its not the fins setting the limits - its something else.

So, if you are not in a really big need of getting a new fin - dont. Stay with it and enjoy it. Good luck in le grand bleu

 

[feign]

It depends on what you are doing. Those 2000hf are not good for surface stuff/spearfishing. If you are just on a line then ok, but if not I would get a pair of softer fins with a good approach angle. I have never used any of the fins you are suggesting, so I can't advise. I just wanted to give you an alternative view to larsemil.

lee

 

[jrgtlm]

My friends,

Please, help me with this!!

Looking forward to hear from you.

Best regards

 

[panosb]

Hi my friend,
I have a pair of mustangs and i have used for a month a pair of rekord 3.
The rekord 3 is a very good and improved version of the older carbon fin model by omer, softer( thank god!!!!) and of good quality as all OMER products.

However, the mustangs ....are from another planet!!! Simply awesome!!! The footpocket is like a sports shoe! Perfect match with the foot leaving minimum dead spaces. The positioning of the blade under your foot gives a different feeling. Of course the excellent shape of the blade also used for the C4 Flaps. The fin is shorter than normal carbon fins, but the effective length of the blade is greater!!!! :inlove :inlove :inlove :inlove

I dont know what the NEMO fin is.

I agree with the larsemil that ideally you must not buy more advanced equipment unless you have the limits of the ones you own, but.... if you really want to buy new fins go and get them!!!!!!! If you dont, you will be thinking about it all the time!!! Go get them and enjoy yourself!!

If you need any more info, let me know!


Panos

 

[jrgtlm]

Dear Panos,

thank you for your reply,

Please, let ask you a doubt.

How fragil is the mustangs??? Is it true that this new model breaks very easiely?? The same happen with Rekord 3?

can I spearfishing with mustang?

I´m in contact with the manufacture, and he can send it to me in Brazil per EU$ 359,00. For the other hand, I found out in the USA a company which is able to send me the Rekord 3 per U$ 392,00

I realy would like to buy a mustang 25 ( can I go deeper with this one?) but I´m afraid of the fragility.

About Captain Nemo, it´s made of Kevlar, I know that it´s very resistent, more than C4, but I not sure if has a similar resulted.

I´m looking for softer fins because my GARA 2000HF is stiffer.

Thank you very much, all of you that answer me.

 

[panosb]

My friend, my mustangs are 25's. C4 is known for their excellent products and i trust them! I dont think that their blades are less fragile than any other carbon fin! I am not sure if kevlar is more resistant than carbon. Of course a carbon needs more attention than your Cressi fins!

I dont know your body type, but i am 1.78m tall and 100kg and with the 25's i am great! I never felt that the energy coming out from the fins is not enough for my needs. They have a spearfishing model, which is a bit different than the freediving model.

Using a better fin will not by itself give you more meters. The mustang for example will help you better your finning technique and this will make you reach your usual meters easier and safer (above all!). If you feel comfortable enough then add a few meters. If you want to go deeper, just train! Dont rely on equipment!

Be careful when choosing the size of the footpockets. My normal shoe size is 42-43 and I am using 2mm socks while diving so I bought the 43-44 size for my mustangs. The footpockets must not be exactly your size because you have the laces and you adjust them like you do with your normasl shoes!

Panos
Panos

 

[spaghetti]

Hi, I have the Rekord 3 and I may recommend them if you dive any deeper than 20 meters and have to swim pretty long distance: they're designed for spearfishing, so the stiffness is effective but human, with an acceptable surface swimming effort. I haven't tried the others you mention.

About fragility, any carbon fin is not preferable if you have to walk on rocks or stones to enter water, or kick in narrow room between the rocks: carbon may get broken and it's big money you waste. Carbon helps for deep diving, plastic helps for shallow rocky bottoms. Hope my 2 cents will help you.

 

[trux]

My friend, my mustangs are 25's. C4 is known for their excellent products and i trust them! I dont think that their blades are less fragile than any other carbon fin! I am not sure if kevlar is more resistant than carbon. Of course a carbon needs more attention than your Cressi fins!

Although I do not own any carbon fins, from what I saw, heard, and read, I am pretty sure that the story about fragility of carbon fins is just a hoax and urban legend. From all fins, it's the plastic ones that are the most fragile. The only difference is that they are the cheapest of them all, so if you break €80-€150 fins it is not as dramatic as if you broke carbons for €350.

However, I highly recommend watching the "fin test" video listed at the top of the Freediving Equipment section of the freediving video collection. Although its quality is miserable and you can barely see the shape of the fins, you can clearly see that after very powerful smashing the fins (plastic, fiberglass and carbon - all smashed in the same way), only the plastic ones break apart. Worth of watching despite the bad picture quality!

 

[marginatus]

Can you please post the reference where it says that the nemo has kevlar in it? I did a litle search for the same reasons as you (i ended up with the mustangs 30 :inlove ) and when searching the nemo fins i didn't find that it had kevlar (except for a site "teampescasub" that is not very accurate in the description of the fin).

Panosb

I dont think that their blades are less fragile than any other carbon fin!

you probably meant "more fragile"

 

[amihov]

I found someone how is selling nemo fins and i am traing to get some more information about them . Acording to what i saw on the picture they are better than Omer Bat they have angle and the layring on the fiberglass looks better.

 

[Haunas]

THe Nemo's are made by waterway (http://finswimworld.com/spearfishing.htm). I have not yet tried it. I have Carbon fiber fins and they are great fins and pretty durable I must say. The part which I broke on my fin was at the 23 degree hinge and screw point. It looks like on all the new fins C4 has moved that point. I am interested in a test comparison between C4 and Carbontek performance wise. Hope this helps.