Okanagan Carp

[Amphibious]

so went for a swim by the boat launch in Carr's Landing yesterday. wacked his twin moments after this pic was taken. 2 down, 100's to go!

 

[vali]

great catch!
after his appeareance it must be a male [not100% shure]
he is more coloured than the carp i used to know
was the visibility good?
how near do you manage to shoot him?

 

[Erik]

Are there Suckers in those lakes Willer? Suckers are good eating. Unlike that thing apparently lol.

 

[vali]

the carp is a very tasty fish...especially grilled

 

[Erik]

I have heard that too Vali. We dont have them in my part of Canada otherwise I'd shoot some and try for myself.

 

[Amphibious]

Erik: LOTS of suckers, and good size. 1kg is very common.

Vali: viz was 30', he was taken at a range of about 1.5 meters. as carp are an invasive, and very destructive species here, I don't eat them, I just shoot them and they end up as eagle food.

 

[vali]

i heard a lot of this distructive species...but only outside europe, i guess
can you tell me why do you consider the carp so invasive and distructive?
and i dont ask this in vain
in our waters is not the carp who is invasive and distructive, but the predators: the pike, the fresh water bass,etc...
they eat most of fish eggs
and i quite don't understand why do you not eat a fish, only because is considered distructive?

in romania we have a lake [sarulesti] wich is open only for the international carp contest, as it been considered that the carp fishing technique is more difficult than the other
as far a s i know, the biggest carp caught here was arround 35kg [a german caught it if i remember corectly]
of course, all the carp is released after being captured and weighted

 

[akor]

the carp is a very tasty fish...especially grilled

The North American Carp basically is the same Cyprinus carpio as European one is, but tastes sligtly different. I"ve tried various cooking for Okanagan and Shuswap carps and grilling sure not the best. The Flesh lose lot of moisture and become dry and grayish in color (nothing even close to jusy yami-yami grilled european one!) Baking in foil with vegetables, lemon and spices works better. But the best it tastes pan fried. Just don't forget immerse it into the mix of flour and eggs before. and add onion beside.
Carp as "invasive and destructive" is mainly menthal - not biological issue (IMHO).

 

[Erik]

Good batch of fish there sir

 

[akor]

Good batch of fish there sir

I'm going there next friday. Welcome!:t

 

[Erik]

Where be that?

 

[akor]

Where be that?

Herald campground (Sunnybrae, Salmon Arm), but can get anywhere around by boat. Okanagan not that far as well.:crutch

 

[nz676]

hmm guess im gonna have to try my hand and hunting in some fresh water for a change those look like fun hunting are there burbot in those lakes as well those are the best tasting fresh water fish ive tried to date but we dont have access to much fresh water for spearing in vancouver so we stick to the ocean

 

[akor]

...are there burbot in those lakes as well those are the best tasting fresh water fish ive tried to date but we dont have access to much fresh water for spearing in vancouver so we stick to the ocean

Sure they are, but burbot, like all other Gadidae family spesies, prefer chill water and in summer time moves to deeper spots (max. depth of those lakes over 500 ft) with lower temperature.
There are nice burbots in some mountain rivers and creeks

 

[nz676]

wow those are some nice looking fish what lake or river did u take them from?

 

[akor]

wow those are some nice looking fish what lake or river did u take them from?

Bow River.

 

[nz676]

cheers im gonna have to check that out any particular types of terrain to watch for that these guys like ive only ever seen them in lakes in northern b.c im guessing calm pools under logs and what not?or do they just lay open on the bottom

 

[Amphibious]

Carp as "invasive and destructive" is mainly menthal - not biological issue (IMHO).

Carp are a non-native species, and as such displace native fish just for being here, so invasive is not mental, it's 100% fact.

lots of information on the net about the destructive nature of these fish. some good videos on youtube.

 

[akor]

Carp are a non-native species, and as such displace native fish just for being here, so invasive is not mental, it's 100% fact.

lots of information on the net about the destructive nature of these fish. some good videos on youtube.

I respect your opinion, but:
1.Carp isn't predator and doesn't press native fish directly(eating em)
2.Their ration includes mainly bottom invertebrates and they almost don't compete with native species for food.
3.Carps have different spawning environment as well.

"...just for being here"- only point, not strong enough to be 100%.
P.S.Net and youtube can't be considered seriously as a source of information even for "scientific like" conclusions

 

[Amphibious]

akor, I'll try to find the Fisheries Canada and D.U. information packets on carp. they are very destructive to waterfowl habitats and most certainly do compete for food with native fish.

untill then..... back from the lake with 46lbs of carp