OMER cayman or Rabitech hunter?

[Mr. X]

Coarse you can, why you think they have aquariums rofl

roflBrilliant!
Spearfishing and Freediving Equipment - Spearguns - Cayman HF - Technosport Inc.

Rabitech Spearfishing South Africa

I think the Omer looks "trick" but I'm surprised they made the barrel so deep. I think a regular barrel tube is around 28mm diameter, a rail would probably add, maybe another 5mm? I would have been move impressed if the barrel were "shorter", especially at the muzzle - to reduce horizontal drag.

I like the way the SA bulk-rubber muzzles position the rubbers along the barrel - like a good eurogun.

 

[Ron S]

I have the hunter and have never seen the camen, so I'm biased, but one thing I'm surprised nobody mentioned is the band difference. Since you've already purchased the RA, which is an outstanding choice, you'll find that making your own circular bands for that gun is significantly cheaper than buying screw in bands for a euro gun.
Ron.

 

[twentytwomonk]

Actually, the HF coesm with a sharkfin shaft, so tying your own bands wouldn't be an issue at all.

I have owned both, and my Rabitech has been gone for a while. I own about 7 guns at the moment, and next to my Wong, my 75 cm Cayman, is my favorite. It's rugged, extremely comfortable, and is accurate as all get out. And you're definetely getting a winner in the HF model with the reel, open muzzle, and finned shaft. You can't really go wrong with either gun, but for me, it's an easy choice.

 

[TOOmas]

im really happy w/ the rob allen, there are just a lot of rocks in the lake so ill be sharpening my spear a lot but what do you mean about making your own bands? i have a 20mm rubber on it and it seems to be working fine. easy to load and lots of power. accurate too

I have the hunter and have never seen the camen, so I'm biased, but one thing I'm surprised nobody mentioned is the band difference. Since you've already purchased the RA, which is an outstanding choice, you'll find that making your own circular bands for that gun is significantly cheaper than buying screw in bands for a euro gun.
Ron.

 

[twentytwomonk]

Hes talking about tying your own bands with dyneema wishbones instead of using the euro bands with the screw on ends and articulated wishbones.

 

[Ron S]

im really happy w/ the rob allen, there are just a lot of rocks in the lake so ill be sharpening my spear a lot but what do you mean about making your own bands? i have a 20mm rubber on it and it seems to be working fine. easy to load and lots of power. accurate too

The band on your gun is just fine, but it's gonna wear out eventually and if you learn how, you can easily make a replacement instead of having to buy one.
Ron.

 

[foxfish]

Still doesnt sound right! TOOmas it is possible to buy rubber in long lengths (bulk rubber) & different diameters. This can be cut to length & a wishbone can be made from Dyneema (a very tough type of cored braid) The benefits are - cheaper replacement bands, quieter & smoother loading & the ability to cut the rubber to suit your needs.

 

[TOOmas]

Still doesnt sound right! TOOmas it is possible to buy rubber in long lengths (bulk rubber) & different diameters. This can be cut to length & a wishbone can be made from Dyneema (a very tough type of cored braid) The benefits are - cheaper replacement bands, quieter & smoother loading & the ability to cut the rubber to suit your needs.

in that case the bands are already set up w/ the Dyneema wishbones, which seems great. when my band eventually does wear down how do i tie on another wishbone? the ones that are on seem to be... well really on. im not sure how i would go about doing that. and is there different materials with different that they make the bands out of? or are all the bands out there the same?

 

[Fondueset]

Band technology is mainly driven by the bull-castration industry - at least they are the ones who've done the most research. I think bands are pretty much all the same - though i could be wrong.(other than diameter etc.) In any case you can either buy new bands for your gun online, or from a shop - or you can pick up bulk tubing and learn to tie them yourself. Here is a good tutorial on how to do it

Band tying tutorial

 

[strangelove]

Big gun investment just to used on a lake, there are less expensive but still good guns that one could use, like the Mark Valantine for example.

 

[Fondueset]

FYI - the cayman takes loop bands as well.

 

[TOOmas]

i wanted a gun that would last and if a take a trip to the ocean i can pack fairly easily, hence the 70cm. plus the fish i can shoot arent to big here. can you insert wishbones w/out that wishbone inserting tool? it doesnt look to complicated but then again what do i know?

 

[covert]

just rember size = range and power, depends as well on how the fish behave if they are skittish and you cant get close then youll have issues. I would stick with a 1m, small enough to pack and travel, and long enough to be good in most shore dive / medium range shots. Can also be used for slightly bigger fish.

 

[Mr. X]

can you insert wishbones w/out that wishbone inserting tool? it doesnt look to complicated but then again what do i know?

It is very easy with the tool but I reckon you could do it with long-nose pliers if you didn't have the tool. It might even be possible to do it without a tool. Without being too gross, rather than using silicon spray, I used saliva to lube the end toggles/beads - figuring that it would quickly dry and become tacky; don't want the toggles lubed to come out under tension! (Glyerine/glycerol, soapy water or diluted detergent are other pos. alternatives).

 

[WsbHunter]

Six weeks ago I sold a Rob Allen 140cm Signature Carbon to someone and one week ago that gun helped him take fourth place in the 2007 US National Spearfishing Championships.

HAHAHAHA, Shooting lings and rockfish with a 140.....that guy is a genious!