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Pelaj 1.7m Kanji vs Riffe Metal tech #5s
- Thread starterSiam Spearo
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Hello Siam,
i m just back from a 45 days trip so i,m just reading yr post.and i might be helpful in yr choice of guns.
as we are ``Pro`` spear fishermen and also i am also custom spearguns builder myself, we,me and my partner,owns around ? 30 + spearguns each and we DID test,owned,or tried ,most from what are on the market today
except from seasniper..that i will order one asap.
about 1.7 m barrel ..i built one off in using an ``EDGE`` special ordered aluminum barrel..it is load with a 2,2 M 7mm shaft and a single 18 mm rubber.
we use it some times but it is more for fun than for being really efficient..
the ``Kanji`` 1.7 m barrel should be deliver with an 8 mm shaft and 3 rubbers..this means the gun will be quite heavy in water because of the ratio from barrel size and shaft weight..(i recently received 3 pelaj 1.1 and 1.2 m with 6.5 and 7 mm shaft)
and his maneuverability would be difficult..and tiring..
the Riffe `metal tech`` ..i received one from the first made MT5 ? same as island size with an ``enclosed track``
this gun is also bit heavy..not good maneuverable ,and the ``closed track`` was -at this time - a pure SH##T- but may be they improved since , and an open track would be better choice in case..!!
For yr sailfishes hunting purposes..you really do not need a Hugh power gun except for the range ..the sail are so flat..and are not big fighters..
can shoot them with a good reel gun..and a 7 mm hawaian shaft ..but it is always easyer with a float line /bungee and 1 or 2 floats. such as riffe inflatable or Rob Allen 35 liters inflatable or else good floats = ``ORCA`` hard foam floats.
for Marlin it is different.. and if you want to land any over 70 kgs..and specially some up to 200 kgs ..(we land an unofficial record of a 320 kgs black one)!!!
Everything must be think and over sized!!
and `Big` guns are the best..even if some in SA landed some few nice big Marlins with a ``normal`` gun after hours of fight ..you can consider it is
an achievement from spear fishing but it is including LOTS of LUCK,and risks (to my opinion)..
so for such best choice are : Steve Alexander Tuna gun
Merlo tuna gun
Collins tuna gun
and certainly few others such as Seasniper customs..,Matt alexander wood and not carbon core model.
about what to choose for the best realistic compromise =
quality/price/range/power/maneuverability/ no problems after few years utilisation..
i would suggest you another `brand` to consider:
EDGE spearguns from Australia.
very good aluminum barrels..not flexing because 28.4 mm Inside diameter with 1,8 mm wall thickness.
can be loaded with 2 x 17 or 18 mm rubbers (stock are 2 x 16mm)
or i made a prototype with open muzzle and 3x 14 mm rubbers on an 1.3 m barrel with an 8 mm shaft with fins and slip tip...
are not heavy maneuverability and not tiring guns to hold all day long.
With a 7mm shaft.. with an 8 mm it start to be heavyer..
the best lenghts would be a 1.4 M with a 1,9 m shaft or a 1,5m with a 2,0 m shaft..(south african shaft)
SuperFrog - Offshore Spearfishing and Freediving
then even better would be same in CF heavy duty radially wound 2,0 mm thick..but this increasing price..
Those Carbon fibers barrels are the one I personally worked on to be the best possible compromise for a light /powerful/speargun..and now Tony Heugh from Edge is offering guns with 1 carbon fiber quality same as mine.
..
so this what could be said on this matter from my side.
if you need any other advice do not hesitate..
all the bests
regards
marco
i m just back from a 45 days trip so i,m just reading yr post.and i might be helpful in yr choice of guns.
as we are ``Pro`` spear fishermen and also i am also custom spearguns builder myself, we,me and my partner,owns around ? 30 + spearguns each and we DID test,owned,or tried ,most from what are on the market today
except from seasniper..that i will order one asap.
about 1.7 m barrel ..i built one off in using an ``EDGE`` special ordered aluminum barrel..it is load with a 2,2 M 7mm shaft and a single 18 mm rubber.
we use it some times but it is more for fun than for being really efficient..
the ``Kanji`` 1.7 m barrel should be deliver with an 8 mm shaft and 3 rubbers..this means the gun will be quite heavy in water because of the ratio from barrel size and shaft weight..(i recently received 3 pelaj 1.1 and 1.2 m with 6.5 and 7 mm shaft)
and his maneuverability would be difficult..and tiring..
the Riffe `metal tech`` ..i received one from the first made MT5 ? same as island size with an ``enclosed track``
this gun is also bit heavy..not good maneuverable ,and the ``closed track`` was -at this time - a pure SH##T- but may be they improved since , and an open track would be better choice in case..!!
For yr sailfishes hunting purposes..you really do not need a Hugh power gun except for the range ..the sail are so flat..and are not big fighters..
can shoot them with a good reel gun..and a 7 mm hawaian shaft ..but it is always easyer with a float line /bungee and 1 or 2 floats. such as riffe inflatable or Rob Allen 35 liters inflatable or else good floats = ``ORCA`` hard foam floats.
for Marlin it is different.. and if you want to land any over 70 kgs..and specially some up to 200 kgs ..(we land an unofficial record of a 320 kgs black one)!!!
Everything must be think and over sized!!
and `Big` guns are the best..even if some in SA landed some few nice big Marlins with a ``normal`` gun after hours of fight ..you can consider it is
an achievement from spear fishing but it is including LOTS of LUCK,and risks (to my opinion)..
so for such best choice are : Steve Alexander Tuna gun
Merlo tuna gun
Collins tuna gun
and certainly few others such as Seasniper customs..,Matt alexander wood and not carbon core model.
about what to choose for the best realistic compromise =
quality/price/range/power/maneuverability/ no problems after few years utilisation..
i would suggest you another `brand` to consider:
EDGE spearguns from Australia.
very good aluminum barrels..not flexing because 28.4 mm Inside diameter with 1,8 mm wall thickness.
can be loaded with 2 x 17 or 18 mm rubbers (stock are 2 x 16mm)
or i made a prototype with open muzzle and 3x 14 mm rubbers on an 1.3 m barrel with an 8 mm shaft with fins and slip tip...
are not heavy maneuverability and not tiring guns to hold all day long.
With a 7mm shaft.. with an 8 mm it start to be heavyer..
the best lenghts would be a 1.4 M with a 1,9 m shaft or a 1,5m with a 2,0 m shaft..(south african shaft)
SuperFrog - Offshore Spearfishing and Freediving
then even better would be same in CF heavy duty radially wound 2,0 mm thick..but this increasing price..
Those Carbon fibers barrels are the one I personally worked on to be the best possible compromise for a light /powerful/speargun..and now Tony Heugh from Edge is offering guns with 1 carbon fiber quality same as mine.
..
so this what could be said on this matter from my side.
if you need any other advice do not hesitate..
all the bests
regards
marco
Hi Bluewater killer,
Thanks for the email its great to hear from someone with so much experience. Did you mean that you have been away on a spearfishing trip for 45 days!? Thats a month and a half!!
Where have you been??
After speaking to the good folks on deeper blue, yourself included, it looks like i am expecting to much from the sailfish. It looks so hard and strong i thought it would put up a really big fight, but it doesn't look like it will be that way.
I got a spare barrel, spear and double tap muzzle all 1.4m length for more versatile use, as it looks as though the 1.7m is going to be only used on the drop off. I am however going to the Burma banks in November, untill now never been speared and the vis there is 40-50m and the banks are 30m below the surface. I think the 1.7 will be usefull there as I can only dive 20-25m so the range should allow me to pick up grouper and rock cod on the bottom, they get to about 150kg there.
I'll also be spearing the waters about half way between Burma and the Andaman islands, we caught a marlin there last time but it got off the hook..... rod and line. You have used your 1.7m railgun, so what do you think it is capable of? What fish did you spear with it?
Also can I ask you a personal question??
You are a pro spearman right? That means you make a living from spearing, do you make your money from taking tours and people on trips or are you a commercial spearo, selling the fish to buyers?
Just interested, it is something I would love to do in the future, take tours and trips etc......
Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you agian soon,
Siam
Thanks for the email its great to hear from someone with so much experience. Did you mean that you have been away on a spearfishing trip for 45 days!? Thats a month and a half!!
Where have you been??
After speaking to the good folks on deeper blue, yourself included, it looks like i am expecting to much from the sailfish. It looks so hard and strong i thought it would put up a really big fight, but it doesn't look like it will be that way.
I got a spare barrel, spear and double tap muzzle all 1.4m length for more versatile use, as it looks as though the 1.7m is going to be only used on the drop off. I am however going to the Burma banks in November, untill now never been speared and the vis there is 40-50m and the banks are 30m below the surface. I think the 1.7 will be usefull there as I can only dive 20-25m so the range should allow me to pick up grouper and rock cod on the bottom, they get to about 150kg there.
I'll also be spearing the waters about half way between Burma and the Andaman islands, we caught a marlin there last time but it got off the hook..... rod and line. You have used your 1.7m railgun, so what do you think it is capable of? What fish did you spear with it?
Also can I ask you a personal question??
You are a pro spearman right? That means you make a living from spearing, do you make your money from taking tours and people on trips or are you a commercial spearo, selling the fish to buyers?
Just interested, it is something I would love to do in the future, take tours and trips etc......
Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you agian soon,
Siam
Siam SWhat fish did you spear with it?You are a pro spearman right? That means you make a living from spearing said:
