• Welcome to the DeeperBlue.com Forums, the largest online community dedicated to Freediving, Scuba Diving and Spearfishing. To gain full access to the DeeperBlue.com Forums you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:

    • Join over 44,280+ fellow diving enthusiasts from around the world on this forum
    • Participate in and browse from over 516,210+ posts.
    • Communicate privately with other divers from around the world.
    • Post your own photos or view from 7,441+ user submitted images.
    • All this and much more...

    You can gain access to all this absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

Research Study

Thread Status: Hello , There was no answer in this thread for more than 60 days.
It can take a long time to get an up-to-date response or contact with relevant users.
I accept that you value the lives of other freedivers enough to save one should they blackout. But not enough to prevent them from taking a substance which could greatly increase the risk of their own death.

So can you tell me why the IOC has a banned substance list? Surely it is to discourage athletes from cheating and from harming themselves. I don't see why all other athletes but not Freedivers should benefit from this protection.
 
The whole issue is too vague anyway. Drinking 1L of lemon juice with salt in it gives you the same results as taking NaHCO3 (since the citric acid in the lemon juice will become HCO3- anyway, and the salt becomes Na+). So did the lemon juice drinking athlete cheat?

In my opinion there are four classes of substances in the question of 'doping':
1. Hormones (epo, hgh, testosterone, IGF-1, prohormones such as N,N-androXXXX, etc..)
2. Substances which do not exist in your body in the first place
(This group can be broken down into:
2A: synthetic drugs such as ibuprofen, sildenafil, beta blockers, artificial O2 carriers, etc..
2B: herbal products, which may include drug like substances such as caffeine, THC, or beneficial substances like ginsenosides etc..)

3. Non-hormonal substances which are either essential to eat or created by your own body (bicarbonate, creatine, salt, potassium, ATP, vitamins, minerals, CoQ10, etc..)

4. Dangerous methods, not substances, such as blood doping.

If we follow the example of the IOC, all substances in class #1 are banned.
Some substances in class #2A are banned, if they contain substances shown to be harmful (i.e. artificial O2 carriers, beta-blockers, etc..)
Some substances in class #2B are banned, such as ephedra, marijuana, etc., but most herbs are allowed, because most herbs are not dangerous.
No substances in class #3 are banned, and all dangerous methods of class #4 are prohibited.

So, NaHCO3 belongs to class #3 (not banned), while EPO belongs to class #1, and some anabolics belong to class #1, while others belong to class 2A.

I think the IOC is correct in its philosophy; An athlete can take any substance he or she wants, helpful or not, so long as that substance does not have a history of putting the athlete in danger. The IOC does NOT ban performance enhancing substances, it only bans substances (enhancing or not) which are shown to be harmful or put the athlete in danger.

AIDA uses IOC drug tests, so the above philosophy applies to AIDA as well.




Eric Fattah
BC, Canada
 
DeeperBlue.com - The Worlds Largest Community Dedicated To Freediving, Scuba Diving and Spearfishing

ABOUT US

ISSN 1469-865X | Copyright © 1996 - 2024 deeperblue.net limited.

DeeperBlue.com is the World's Largest Community dedicated to Freediving, Scuba Diving, Ocean Advocacy and Diving Travel.

We've been dedicated to bringing you the freshest news, features and discussions from around the underwater world since 1996.

ADVERT