Sore belly

[Bill McIntyre]

I'm a freedive spearfisherman rather than a pure freediver so I don't frequent this forum, but this may be the beat place to get an answer.

After the last two trips, I'm noticed some abdominal soreness. Also on the last two trips, I've had big increases in bottom time, far beyond what I've been doing for years. I won't embarrass myself by being specific, but its a big improvement for me. At age 70,I seriously doubt that my physical capabilities have improved.

Could the abdominal soreness be the result of better belly breathing?

 

[hteas]

????
Sorry to say it Bill, but I'll bet you're going to stump everyone on this one.
Hope the extended bottom times continue. That should really help with the WSB
Howard

 

[ILDiver]

Bill, you are probably getting some soreness if you are doing better, more full belly breathing. You are likely stretching the muscles more than usual. Congrats on the improvements. Dive safe!

 

[samdive]

I doubt it's the belly breathing - could you be swallowing a lot of air in an attempt to pack? that might hurt the belly....

 

[Bill McIntyre]

I doubt it's the belly breathing - could you be swallowing a lot of air in an attempt to pack? that might hurt the belly....

No, I don't do anything fancy like packing.

 

[ILDiver]

Well...for me... After a long day of diving I have soreness too. I was told in class that it is common. I was told its from stretching muscles and using more diaphragm.
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[Erik]

Maybe it's from heaving those huge fish up on to your boat? lol

Are you staying down long enough to get diaphragmatic contractions Bill?

 

[azapa]

You've got us all guessing here Bill. Have you changed your weighting, diet or rest patterns recently? Some very good freedivers have told me to keep a logbook of all my dives, allowing mapping out and understanding why those freak good days or periods happen.

What star sign are you?

 

[Bill McIntyre]

You've got us all guessing here Bill. Have you changed your weighting, diet or rest patterns recently? Some very good freedivers have told me to keep a logbook of all my dives, allowing mapping out and understanding why those freak good days or periods happen.

What star sign are you?

I haven't changed anything as far as I know, and I've never experienced a contraction either.

I'll have to ask my wife about the sign.

 

[adolphin]

Bill,

Regarding swallowing air, this could happen during equalising as you descend, then on the ascent the air blow up again and cause pain. but usually divers will have this problem when they start diving and it goes away as their equalising techniques improve, unless you added a lot of depth very fast or dived in very hard conditions that may have lead you to changing your equalising techniques or pushing harder into the wrong way (stomach) ?

Deep abdominal breathing otherwise surely cause the diaphragm to stretch more and feel sore afterwards, but again as you repeat it it should go away in few days and you retain the new flexibility level .. .. congrats for the new numbers anyway!

 

[fcallagy]

Bill if he doesn't post here maybe a pm to eric fattah he is usually very knowledgable re medical stuff.

 

[Bill McIntyre]

Bill if he doesn't post here maybe a pm to eric fattah he is usually very knowledgable re medical stuff.

This is not really a big deal. It was just a barely noticeable soreness and I wondered if there was some connection to better bottom time.

I went diving again yesterday and didn't notice any soreness afterward. Of course my bottom times were back to normal, and we came home early because my buddy broke an eardrum retrieving a fish wrapped up in the kelp.

http://forums.deeperblue.com/california-west-coast/83086-costly-fish.html

 

[Mr. X]

One word: pies

(Best wishes to your dive buddy:crutch)

 

[BennyB]

Bumpier than normal trip out in the boat? That would work the core muscles more.

 

[ezequiel]

could be that because your are staying longer, you are having more and stronger diaphragmatic contractions, and the muscle gets tired and sore .... ?

 

[Erik]

Bill doesn't get contractions.

 

[azapa]

See what you started Bill.

To focus more on the random good dives you have been having, try hard to think what has been different lately. I asked half joking about the star sign. I am Cancer (July 17th) and my dives were far too good last weekend too.... the stars. Don't worry, i don't believe in that crap too much.

Ideas:
- you slept very well the night before?
- they slipped you decaf in the morning instead of regular coffee?
- you were far better hydrated than normal (extra peeing? kidneys working well)?
- you had a lighter or heavy breakfast that morning or dinner the night before?
- the water was clearer/stiller/warmer than usual?
- you were especially happy about something that had happened?
- your dive partner was very attentive and gave you extra confidence in your dives?
- you (sub consciously) learned a new trick to relax better on the dive?
- you had some new equipment that gave you a nice placebo "I'm diving better" effect?
- your weighting felt just right and you managed to relax and freefall a little?

Go ahead and pick one!