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South Devon 2016
- Thread starterTrelawney
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Just got up to speed with the new bass laws, deeply depressing and unsurprising. Any progress made in 2015 has now been lost by increasing the quota of the largest commercial fishing method for bass by 30%. The issue of protecting bass stocks has been totally sold out, which on a personal level makes it hard for me to respect the new ‘catch limit’ imposed on non-commercial fishermen . Total mismanagement and lack of understanding of the bass 'resource'. Yes I am pissed off!!
Happy 2016 All, at least we have good Vis
Stan
Happy 2016 All, at least we have good Vis
Stan
Hi all, any recommendations on wet suits ? I currently have a cressi ultra span 5mm which is 4-5 seasons old and developed a few leaks, I felt cold a good few times last year so its time for a new one. When it was newer this suit was amazing I could not fault it, sometimes the only reason ‘water’ would get into the suit was down to my lack of bladder control. I can never relax if I got to go !
I found a new cressi ultra for £120.00 and tempted to get the same again, but would like something that will last longer any recommendations welcome.
Cheers
Stan
I found a new cressi ultra for £120.00 and tempted to get the same again, but would like something that will last longer any recommendations welcome.
Cheers
Stan
sea bass petitions
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747/signatures/new
http://www.saveourseabass.org/en/urgent/
if you hadent already found them
Stan
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747/signatures/new
http://www.saveourseabass.org/en/urgent/
if you hadent already found them
Stan
Anyone who is intrested in the bass stock protection should take a look at this
NEF
working
paper
European Seabass in the UK: A test case for
implementing Article 17 of the reformed CFP
http://b.3cdn.net/nefoundation/1e5c0460a33f687ed8_i9m6vgug3.pdf
It goes into great detail disscusing social economic and bass protection issues
Stan
NEF
working
paper
European Seabass in the UK: A test case for
implementing Article 17 of the reformed CFP
http://b.3cdn.net/nefoundation/1e5c0460a33f687ed8_i9m6vgug3.pdf
It goes into great detail disscusing social economic and bass protection issues
Stan
Stan. 4-5 years for a suit is good going mate as far as I'm concerned. I've always stuck with the Mares suits; they do the job for me. Jim has a made to measure - can’t remember the make, came over from America for similar money.
VIZ - Anyone out around South /East Devon at any point can I have an update please.
Teignmouth getting better but not there yet, Web cams - Blackpool sands looks flat, Bigbury looks ok this morning but has been more suited for surfers of late
cheers lee
VIZ - Anyone out around South /East Devon at any point can I have an update please.
Teignmouth getting better but not there yet, Web cams - Blackpool sands looks flat, Bigbury looks ok this morning but has been more suited for surfers of late
cheers lee
Dear Alastair Brown ,
The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “The decision to water down the recent European decision on the bass stocks”.
Government responded:
The petition title misrepresents the EU process. UK Government successfully ensured anglers could fish for sport and the derogation for gillnets excluded driftnets that take most UK netting catches.
The UK Government has not sought to water down the EU decision to protect bass stocks agreed in the EU fisheries Council on 15 December 2015, as suggested in the petition title. The terms of the petition are either a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the EU process and the UK Government’s approach.
It is actually the UK Government that has consistently pressed for EU action to address the decline of the stock, and we secured emergency action in 2015. We were not the authors of the recent proposal for 2016, however – this was a Commission proposal – nor indeed of the derogations offered in the compromise deal tabled at Council. However the agreement for 2016 is tougher on most sectors than that for 2015.
The UK Government did manage to achieve some key outcomes to adjust both the proposal and the related compromise deal. These help to protect the EU bass stock’s progress to sustainable fishing and the interests of both recreational and small scale commercial fishermen as EU bass fisheries move towards that goal, as follows.
We fought for and secured continuation of a recreational catch and release fishery for recreational sea anglers during the 6 month moratorium on bass catches, which was under threat in the Commission proposal wording. This means that anglers and charter vessels can continue sport-fishing activity throughout the year, subject to the ban proposed by the Commission on keeping bass during the first six months, coupled with a single fish daily bag limit per person in the second half of the year.
While accepting the principle of the proposed 6 month moratorium and a subsequent catch limit of 1 tonne per vessel per month for most commercial fisheries, we aimed to avoid disproportionate impacts on the lower impact, small-scale inshore hook and line and inshore fixed gillnet fisheries during the first 6 months. But as the UK Government position was for a more modest derogation than that offered on the day, we sought to reduce the impact of this on bass stocks.
Our negotiating position was based on different fisheries’ relative impacts and reflected several factors. Hook and line has the highest degree of selectivity for the right size of bass taken – though gillnets also perform well compared with other fishing methods. We also needed to consider the proportion of the bass catch taken by UK vessels using these methods: although the nets gear group has previously accounted for half of the annual UK bass total landings (46% average from 2011-2013), drift-netting is estimated to account for up to 90% of this, as the Commission are aware, and drift-netting was not agreed for inclusion in the derogation.
In the final compromise these two commercial fisheries (hook and line and fixed gillnets) were given identical derogations for all Member States fishing for bass (February-March moratorium and 1.3 tonne catch limit all year). The UK Government negotiating position in advance of the Council decision had been to press for lower – and differentiated – catch limits for derogations to apply for these two EU fisheries (excluding drift-netting) during the moratorium. But while the compromise offered higher monthly catch limits for netting, matching the limits for hook and line, these are not applicable to the majority of UK netting activity and are combined with the complete closure for two months.
It was necessary to agree EU-level measures for bass in this way because we share the fishery with other Member States who need to be fully signed up if we are to achieve stock recovery. We now at least have a firm timetable with Member States’ and Commission agreement, to achieve sustainable fishing of bass by 2018, and the EU’s interim management package will increasingly be complemented by regional measures, including in the context of multi-annual management plans driven by the Member States concerned, as well as national ones.
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Click this link to view the response online:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747?reveal_response=yes
The Petitions Committee will take a look at this petition and its response. They can press the government for action and gather evidence. If this petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the Committee will consider it for a debate.
The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
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The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “The decision to water down the recent European decision on the bass stocks”.
Government responded:
The petition title misrepresents the EU process. UK Government successfully ensured anglers could fish for sport and the derogation for gillnets excluded driftnets that take most UK netting catches.
The UK Government has not sought to water down the EU decision to protect bass stocks agreed in the EU fisheries Council on 15 December 2015, as suggested in the petition title. The terms of the petition are either a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the EU process and the UK Government’s approach.
It is actually the UK Government that has consistently pressed for EU action to address the decline of the stock, and we secured emergency action in 2015. We were not the authors of the recent proposal for 2016, however – this was a Commission proposal – nor indeed of the derogations offered in the compromise deal tabled at Council. However the agreement for 2016 is tougher on most sectors than that for 2015.
The UK Government did manage to achieve some key outcomes to adjust both the proposal and the related compromise deal. These help to protect the EU bass stock’s progress to sustainable fishing and the interests of both recreational and small scale commercial fishermen as EU bass fisheries move towards that goal, as follows.
We fought for and secured continuation of a recreational catch and release fishery for recreational sea anglers during the 6 month moratorium on bass catches, which was under threat in the Commission proposal wording. This means that anglers and charter vessels can continue sport-fishing activity throughout the year, subject to the ban proposed by the Commission on keeping bass during the first six months, coupled with a single fish daily bag limit per person in the second half of the year.
While accepting the principle of the proposed 6 month moratorium and a subsequent catch limit of 1 tonne per vessel per month for most commercial fisheries, we aimed to avoid disproportionate impacts on the lower impact, small-scale inshore hook and line and inshore fixed gillnet fisheries during the first 6 months. But as the UK Government position was for a more modest derogation than that offered on the day, we sought to reduce the impact of this on bass stocks.
Our negotiating position was based on different fisheries’ relative impacts and reflected several factors. Hook and line has the highest degree of selectivity for the right size of bass taken – though gillnets also perform well compared with other fishing methods. We also needed to consider the proportion of the bass catch taken by UK vessels using these methods: although the nets gear group has previously accounted for half of the annual UK bass total landings (46% average from 2011-2013), drift-netting is estimated to account for up to 90% of this, as the Commission are aware, and drift-netting was not agreed for inclusion in the derogation.
In the final compromise these two commercial fisheries (hook and line and fixed gillnets) were given identical derogations for all Member States fishing for bass (February-March moratorium and 1.3 tonne catch limit all year). The UK Government negotiating position in advance of the Council decision had been to press for lower – and differentiated – catch limits for derogations to apply for these two EU fisheries (excluding drift-netting) during the moratorium. But while the compromise offered higher monthly catch limits for netting, matching the limits for hook and line, these are not applicable to the majority of UK netting activity and are combined with the complete closure for two months.
It was necessary to agree EU-level measures for bass in this way because we share the fishery with other Member States who need to be fully signed up if we are to achieve stock recovery. We now at least have a firm timetable with Member States’ and Commission agreement, to achieve sustainable fishing of bass by 2018, and the EU’s interim management package will increasingly be complemented by regional measures, including in the context of multi-annual management plans driven by the Member States concerned, as well as national ones.
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Click this link to view the response online:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747?reveal_response=yes
The Petitions Committee will take a look at this petition and its response. They can press the government for action and gather evidence. If this petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the Committee will consider it for a debate.
The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition. Unsubscribe
Sounds like a big "Get Stuffed, we're not changing it" response to me!
As expected! Magna Carta rights... I'd love to have the time to challenge this in court...
Why aren't any of the angling associations challenging this!!!!
Why aren't any of the angling associations challenging this!!!!
Hi lee thanks for the info, the last suit was good for a couple of seasons then started to deterioate. Im probably expecting to much for an 'off the peg suit' orderd another one but probably should of gone up a size, the new year fitness hasent started yet.
stan
stan
Just got a mooring in Teignmouth on the river, boat probably won't be in the water until end of March / early April, could anyone recommend an easy/safe spot to dive for a novice within a few miles of the river ?
Any help greatly appreciated
Also may be in the market for a buddy nearer the time
Any help greatly appreciated
Also may be in the market for a buddy nearer the time
There are plenty of good spots in both directions from the Teign. The problem is that the vis is often poor.
There are some nice reefs between the big rock stack at Halcombe and Dawlish. Also between Teignmouth and Babbacombe. All quite shallow and quite safe providing you can see where you are going!
Good luck!
There are some nice reefs between the big rock stack at Halcombe and Dawlish. Also between Teignmouth and Babbacombe. All quite shallow and quite safe providing you can see where you are going!
Good luck!