the cove is now out on dvd and online rental, I got my copy yesterday, there is a bonus freediving section in the special features and some other cool stuff
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the cove on DVD
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Picked up a copy too. The freediving special feature is awesome.
Was unfortunately greatly annoyed by compulsory ads at the beginning. You're supposed to be able to skip them with the chapter button, but on our DVD player, and on a computer movie player we have, the skipping didn't work- Grrr :vangry had to waste an interminable amount of time letting the pesky things play themselves out . . .
The same thing happened with the Fantastic 4 DVD, and that one also made you sit through a video clip preaching about copying. It's a good thing I don't know how to post torrents on the internet, because to extract revenge I've been entertaining thoughts of stripping out all these rotten, time-wasting PUO codes and posting archives of these annoying videos that do this up on the internet so that people can get the movies without the harrassment
Was unfortunately greatly annoyed by compulsory ads at the beginning. You're supposed to be able to skip them with the chapter button, but on our DVD player, and on a computer movie player we have, the skipping didn't work- Grrr :vangry had to waste an interminable amount of time letting the pesky things play themselves out . . .
The same thing happened with the Fantastic 4 DVD, and that one also made you sit through a video clip preaching about copying. It's a good thing I don't know how to post torrents on the internet, because to extract revenge I've been entertaining thoughts of stripping out all these rotten, time-wasting PUO codes and posting archives of these annoying videos that do this up on the internet so that people can get the movies without the harrassment
I've not had problem with the ads, I hit the menu button when it starts and it bypasses ads and goes straight to the cove menu, as for uk release I don't know about regional coding stuff, does that apply to pay per download stuff?
That's good to know! I think I need to upgrade my DVD player. It will play both PAL and NTSC videos, but has refused to bypass things on several DVDs now, as has the ULead player that I use on my computer. The ULead program is even so anal retentive that it tries to change the region coding on my drive all the time, even for region 0 discs.
Maybe I should spring for one of those region- & PUO-free players you can order online from Hong Kong. Problem is, I'm waiting for the Blu-Ray market to settle down, and will probably want to get one of those- but now I think I'll hold out and see if they become available code-free from Asia . . .
Release date for Europe (region 2) is Jan 4. They really do seem to charge a lot for them there, at least in the UK from what I've seen (£16-£17 in the shops)?
The Region 1 DVDs are really cheap. I was able to find one on eBay for $10, and even in the shops here in Toronto they're selling for $22-$23 (£12-£13). Maybe if you got one of those region-free DVD players, you'd save the cost back by ordering el cheapo discs from N. America and Asia online? . . . and you'd get to see the movies sooner, since they're available on eBay within days of release here.
I just watched this film; quite interesting i thought, i especially i liked the secret camera filming - cant believe those guys didnt see them! Respect to all the people involved, including the japanese school peoples that stood up to say 'no'.
The irony of the clip at the end with the japanese waling delegate saying 'all dolphin killing is now humane and instant' whilst the dolphin guy is walking around with a video showing the crimson sea and slaughtering!
dont really understand why the japanese are doing it, or why it started?
the freediving section is cool.
The irony of the clip at the end with the japanese waling delegate saying 'all dolphin killing is now humane and instant' whilst the dolphin guy is walking around with a video showing the crimson sea and slaughtering!
dont really understand why the japanese are doing it, or why it started?
the freediving section is cool.
Aboriginal and later Japanese people caught whales from shore since prehistoric times, in small numbers, much like aboriginal people in Russia & Canada do today.
Whaling was practiced in some areas, and in other areas was not, particularly since people in some regions thought the whale sacred.
Taiji in Southern Japan was a whaling town, and in the late 1500s whalers there developed improved techniques for teams of men to hunt using harpoons from open rowboats, much like the the whalers from America and Europe would learn to do at a later time. Whaling went from being a subsistence activity to an industry, and soon spread to other parts of Japan.
In the mid 1600s a man named Kakuemon Yoriharu invented a brand new technique for catching whales inshore where spotters on shore-based towers would look out for whales, then a group of boats would go out past the whales and start using noisemakers in the water to panic the animals, and the fleet would shape their line to drive the whale, or a few whales, toward shore. Just offshore another group of boats would be waiting with nets, which they would deploy just at the right time to entangle the whales during their rush ahead of the noisemaking boats. The whales were then easy to finish off, with much less effort and risk on the part of the whalers. The whales were then towed to shore to be flensed.
The industry became so efficient that conflicts over coastal pollution began to develop between the whalers and other users, especially fishermen, since enough blood & offal were being released along the coastlines to cause horrific smells and water fouling, as well as eutrophic destruction of local ecosystems.
Whaling continued apace in towns such as Taiji, while local opposition shut down whaling operations in some other towns, but once modern factory ship whaling with bow-mounted harpoon cannon was introduced to Japan in the 1890's the writing was on the wall. By the 1930s whales had almost been wiped out from the Sea of Japan and the Japanese Pacific coast, and shore-based whaling wasn't feasible any more.
Local whalers in Taiji knew that their techniques worked for all cetaceans, and whale stock depletion forced them to switch over to smaller animals such as dolphins, pilot whales and the occasional false killer whale- then after World War II, a serendipitous development put them in a unique position to make better money than their whaling ancestors ever had. The rise of aquatic theme parks with captive dolphins meant there was a burgeoning demand for dolphins captured without injury-causing techniques. Buyers were willing to pay what must have seemed like staggering amounts of money for the live dolphins- a good specimen can bring in over $100,000, and the whalers in Taiji and a few other whaling towns knew how to do it- you use your sound technique to drive the animals into a cove and then pen them in with nets after they're inside. Then the buyers come & pick out the animals they want and have them slung up for transport. The rest used to be then slaughtered.
Starting with the expose of dolphin hunting at Futo in 1999, then several subsequent exposes in Taiji, the latest being The Cove documentary, the Japanese media have been publishing stories on the heavy metal contamination in dolphin meat, and dolphin meat has become virtually unsaleable in Japan now. During the 2009 dolphin drive season in Taiji, the whalers let the dolphins that weren't selected by live animal buyers go back out to sea, since it wasn't worth slaughtering them.
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Thnaks for the info sross, appreciated
That last sentence speaks volumes
heavy metal contamination is a little worrying tho.Yeah, those poor buggers have to swim around with way too much mercury in their bodies. The Japanese limit for mercury in meat is < 0.4 mg/kg, and most tuna fall below that level, even though most scientists consider tuna to be a health concern. Dolphins typically come in at >1 mg/kg, and the worst animals were false killer whales, which are at the very top of the food chain, and came in at 81 mg/kg. That kind of mercury contamination is enough to cause Minimata disease in people who eat it, and there has been speculation that animals with the higher levels of mercury contamination might have their physical abilities impaired.
A study from Australia ( Mercury Contamination Found In Stranded Victorian Dolphins) found that dolphins dying from strandings had significantly more mercury in their bodies than live animals, leading the researchers to speculate that the stranded animals were suffering neurological symptoms from the mercury.
Thanks for your posts sross.
I bought the DVD expecting dolphins, freediving and .. well not sure what else but knew it was likely to shock me.
I never expected what I saw. As soon as it finished I was thinking "what can I do?". I tell everybody about the documentry, and my copy of the DVD is being forced into peoples hands to watch! Its currently with a friend who teaches Food Catering. Her students have to study topics such as toxic / poisons in food so hoping she may be able to use the DVD to educate teenages who might take a little more care with our planet. After that I will be passing it to a friend who teaches science and is a keen marine biologist hoping it could be used by him. The only issue I see in it being used in the classroom is that it doesn't show the other point of view (which if we agree or not has to be shown in the classroom to remain unbiased .. allowing students to make there own mind up as to if its right or wrong). Maybe something can be edited for classroom use by the producers of The Cove.
What will happen this year? Surely the world press will be there in September. At least it sounds like the slaughter has stopped? Should we be thankfull that Mecury has entered the food chain?? I doubt it would have stopped otherwise.
I bought the DVD expecting dolphins, freediving and .. well not sure what else but knew it was likely to shock me.
I never expected what I saw. As soon as it finished I was thinking "what can I do?". I tell everybody about the documentry, and my copy of the DVD is being forced into peoples hands to watch! Its currently with a friend who teaches Food Catering. Her students have to study topics such as toxic / poisons in food so hoping she may be able to use the DVD to educate teenages who might take a little more care with our planet. After that I will be passing it to a friend who teaches science and is a keen marine biologist hoping it could be used by him. The only issue I see in it being used in the classroom is that it doesn't show the other point of view (which if we agree or not has to be shown in the classroom to remain unbiased .. allowing students to make there own mind up as to if its right or wrong). Maybe something can be edited for classroom use by the producers of The Cove.
What will happen this year? Surely the world press will be there in September. At least it sounds like the slaughter has stopped? Should we be thankfull that Mecury has entered the food chain?? I doubt it would have stopped otherwise.
I was absolutely appalled by what I saw in The Cove.
I work with contaminants in fish for the state of Alaska. The highest concentration we have found in a fish is just over 2 parts per million. The highest concentration found in Minamata Bay was 75 parts per million. A Japanese scientist, shown in The Cove, said the highest he saw in Japanese dolphjins was 6,000 parts per million. It's a mind numbing number. It's 3,000 times as high as the highest we have, and that's high. Our threshhold for unlimited consumption is 0.15 ppm. Our primary Advisory kicks in at 0.32 parts per million. And the Japanese dolphin was 6,000 parts per million.
On top of that, the concentration of Selenium in dolphins is typically rather low. Selenium tends to help protect us against the "evil" of mercury. There is an arguement going on about what the mechanism is that allows selenium to help, but it is nowhere mear 6,000 parts per million.
The attitude of the Japanese in this matter is absolutely incomprehensible. They're poisoning their own children for a profit for a few fishermen!!!
Despite the worldwide public awareness of Minamata, the Japanese government hasn't even dealt with honor even in Minamata. They are still hiding behind pathetically small "sympathy payments" and refusing to accept the blame and repercussions of what they did there in the 1940s to at least 1980, so I guess no one should be surprised they are fighting so hard to deny this. Wiki is a good place to start for ahistory of the whole nightmare.
My 0.02$
Howard
I work with contaminants in fish for the state of Alaska. The highest concentration we have found in a fish is just over 2 parts per million. The highest concentration found in Minamata Bay was 75 parts per million. A Japanese scientist, shown in The Cove, said the highest he saw in Japanese dolphjins was 6,000 parts per million. It's a mind numbing number. It's 3,000 times as high as the highest we have, and that's high. Our threshhold for unlimited consumption is 0.15 ppm. Our primary Advisory kicks in at 0.32 parts per million. And the Japanese dolphin was 6,000 parts per million.
On top of that, the concentration of Selenium in dolphins is typically rather low. Selenium tends to help protect us against the "evil" of mercury. There is an arguement going on about what the mechanism is that allows selenium to help, but it is nowhere mear 6,000 parts per million.
The attitude of the Japanese in this matter is absolutely incomprehensible. They're poisoning their own children for a profit for a few fishermen!!!
Despite the worldwide public awareness of Minamata, the Japanese government hasn't even dealt with honor even in Minamata. They are still hiding behind pathetically small "sympathy payments" and refusing to accept the blame and repercussions of what they did there in the 1940s to at least 1980, so I guess no one should be surprised they are fighting so hard to deny this. Wiki is a good place to start for ahistory of the whole nightmare.
My 0.02$
Howard