Aloha All,
This is a great thread. I didn't vote because they are all good. I think many of us tend to over analyze the handle placement. Handle placement should be where it will work the best for the diver using it. It's like golfing. Look at the endless styles of putters. You don't have only one club to play the game. That is why I build the handle for wherever the diver needs it.
On bigger guns with a long stock, a mid handle might be better to aid in maneuverability while a small 75cm or 85 cm gun would be best with a rear handle.
I once heard from a European national champion that Euro guns were originally designed for diving deep, shooting small fish in cracks, and holes. A 85 cm gun is a big one by his standards for the Med. For diving off Florida for bigger game, or Puerto Vallarhta for big pelagic he favors mid handle and rear handle plus guns. He mentioned that once you go bigger than 100cm then maneuverability and also loss of power compared to a multi band type comes into play.
I do know that compared to some of our rail guns, a hybrid type gun enables you to have a little bit of buoyancy and yet maneuverability compared to a same sized Eruo gun. This is because you can only get so much buoyancy out of a tube vs wood stock. In the end it just depends on what type of gun, handle placement and style of diving you like. Me, I like them all. As long as its a stick with a band and sharp rod on it to kill fish , I'm happy. Look at some of the spearguns that are in countries that don't have access to modern spearguns. The divers do just fine with umbrella wire, rebar and anything that can be sharpened and propelled by rubber.
Here are a few pictures to give you an idea of the different handle placements.
Picture 1. this is a eruo hybrid with the handle in the back with the portion of the stock behind the handle the same as our Hawaiian railgun
Picture 2. Both 2 and 3 are examples of a rear plus and a mid handle for comparision.
Picture 3.
Picture 4. shows Euro style,Rear plus, Mid handle , and rear handle.
The Euro style handle I do is my version of putting the handle as far back on the stock. Obviously there is room for farther placement but I choose to go leave enough room for the mechanism and some stock to use when chest loading. Take care, dive safe and love the debates!
Aloha,Daryl
This is a great thread. I didn't vote because they are all good. I think many of us tend to over analyze the handle placement. Handle placement should be where it will work the best for the diver using it. It's like golfing. Look at the endless styles of putters. You don't have only one club to play the game. That is why I build the handle for wherever the diver needs it.
On bigger guns with a long stock, a mid handle might be better to aid in maneuverability while a small 75cm or 85 cm gun would be best with a rear handle.
I once heard from a European national champion that Euro guns were originally designed for diving deep, shooting small fish in cracks, and holes. A 85 cm gun is a big one by his standards for the Med. For diving off Florida for bigger game, or Puerto Vallarhta for big pelagic he favors mid handle and rear handle plus guns. He mentioned that once you go bigger than 100cm then maneuverability and also loss of power compared to a multi band type comes into play.
I do know that compared to some of our rail guns, a hybrid type gun enables you to have a little bit of buoyancy and yet maneuverability compared to a same sized Eruo gun. This is because you can only get so much buoyancy out of a tube vs wood stock. In the end it just depends on what type of gun, handle placement and style of diving you like. Me, I like them all. As long as its a stick with a band and sharp rod on it to kill fish , I'm happy. Look at some of the spearguns that are in countries that don't have access to modern spearguns. The divers do just fine with umbrella wire, rebar and anything that can be sharpened and propelled by rubber.
Here are a few pictures to give you an idea of the different handle placements.
Picture 1. this is a eruo hybrid with the handle in the back with the portion of the stock behind the handle the same as our Hawaiian railgun
Picture 2. Both 2 and 3 are examples of a rear plus and a mid handle for comparision.
Picture 3.
Picture 4. shows Euro style,Rear plus, Mid handle , and rear handle.
The Euro style handle I do is my version of putting the handle as far back on the stock. Obviously there is room for farther placement but I choose to go leave enough room for the mechanism and some stock to use when chest loading. Take care, dive safe and love the debates!
Aloha,Daryl
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