wetsuit question

[azapa]

its no hassle cleaning, just rinse off well and hang inside out to dry. I pee in mine, too, if you were wondering. It does not ever get smelly.

BTW always wet the INSIDE AND OUTSIDE of the suit when handling it, even when turning inside out. A lubed inside but dry outside leads to problems (and vice verca).

This whole post reads disgustingly!

 

[Fondueset]

I think neoprene is naturally anti-microbial - as long as it is allowed to dry.
I believe not peeing in your wetsuit is a sign of mental illness.
I can't believe you use Dr. Bronners!! That stuff burns in all the wrong places for me.

 

[kirkerik]

I think the coatings are a waste of time - My suits are all plenty warm but I see no advantage in terms of getting them on and off compared with bare open cell. If you want a suit you can get into without lube you need a fabric lining. It's as simple as that. Otherwise you will destroy the suit eventually. My bare open cell suit is actually the easiest to put on with lube.

Sorry, i failed to see the point of the coatings not being worth it. Good to know! I'll keep away from elios. The only reason i was considering one was because of the coating option. I don't really feel comfortable w/ their website either.

Then for me the open cell Oceanos suit should be perfect 'cause i'm looking for a warm suit. I thought because they were described as "slick" on their website that it was a smooth rubber coating.

Also great to hear the open cell is the easiest to put on as long as you have some lube!

 

[kirkerik]

its no hassle cleaning, just rinse off well and hang inside out to dry. I pee in mine, too, if you were wondering. It does not ever get smelly.

BTW always wet the INSIDE AND OUTSIDE of the suit when handling it, even when turning inside out. A lubed inside but dry outside leads to problems (and vice verca).

This whole post reads disgustingly!

It always seems once ya have the suit on then it's awww, now i gotta go pee!rofl

Do you then lube the outside too to handle it or do you mean just keep it wet w/ water in and out to handle it?

I think neoprene is naturally anti-microbial - as long as it is allowed to dry.
I believe not peeing in your wetsuit is a sign of mental illness.
I can't believe you use Dr. Bronners!! That stuff burns in all the wrong places for me.

Good to know about the anti-microbial on the neop.

Dr. Bronners Peppermint is the real kicker! good stuff. they do have a mild non-scented one too.

 

[kirkerik]

Do you then lube the outside too to handle it or do you mean just keep it wet w/ water in and out to handle it?

uhhh, i guess if i thought about it for a second i would'nt have needed to ask

 

[Simos]

A few thoughts:

1. On peeing - it's not actually a coincidence you need to pee when you are diving kirkerik, it's a direct result of pressure There's a name for this effect but it escapes me right now..

2. Urine as far as I know is normally sterile so you need not worry

3. I have a feeling that the internal coating will anyway come off at some point - I don't know why I am saying this as my suit is open-cell but I think it must be because I must have seen some older, tired suits when I first started diving. Would be great if someone who owns a suit with internal coating could confirm whether it lasts...

4. Can confirm too the suit doesn't smell IF you rinse it properly - I have also walked past suits that weren't rinsed properly and were laid out to dry and I can't say the same about them lol

 

[Fondueset]

At the risk of continuing a thread which has exhausted the subject to the point of neurosis.
Yes - the internal coatings wear off.

And now, purely for the sake of my own angst; let me freaking summarize

Open Cell in is best
Only a fabric lining will free you of the need to use lube - at the expense of warmth.
Nylon out is best for a first and/or general use suit.
Coatings don't work.

My next warm weather suit will be 3 mil
Smoothskin out
NYLON IN

muahahahahahaha

may Poseidon, in his infinite wisdom, crush any further discourse in this thread.

 

[kirkerik]

1. the cold can get you too. also we tend to relax once floating in the water.

2. no worries

3. there you go. Might as well keep to the open cell

4.Me too. When i used to white water kayak more i was sure to rinse the boat as well. When pee is exposed to the bacteria in the natural world - look out - no longer sterile.

 

[kirkerik]

At the risk of continuing a thread which has exhausted the subject to the point of neurosis.
Yes - the internal coatings wear off.

And now, purely for the sake of my own angst; let me freaking summarize

Open Cell in is best
Only a fabric lining will free you of the need to use lube - at the expense of warmth.
Nylon out is best for a first and/or general use suit.
Coatings don't work.

My next warm weather suit will be 3 mil
Smoothskin out
NYLON IN

muahahahahahaha

may Poseidon, in his infinite wisdom, crush any further discourse in this thread.

Well said. I'm going to buy a suit now.

thanks for everyones great info and sharing your experiences!

 

[kirkerik]

It really did help for someone having very little experience in freediving. I just continued to respond to all the responses in my subscription.

thanks again all,
kirk

 

[silkyshark]

Okay, I know you have already made your mind up but I would like to add a little of my experience to this too if that is alright?
My 1st wetsuit was a made to measure Elios 5mm open cell inner with nylon outer and the best advise given to me.....use talcum powder as lube! This means my skin would stay dry the whole session {ahem, I'm a lady so never pee in my suit ;-)} and getting the suit on and off was easy.
Just in case you ever need to lube up to get into your wetsuit for cold water dives, talc is nice to keep you dryer for longer on the inside of your suit.
Have fun, keep safe!

 

[kirkerik]

thanks silkyshark!

 

[kirkerik]

well i ordered the Oceanos Grey from diveskin. Woohoo! I await a warm dive hopefully soon!

thanks all again

 

[pingshui]

I got an Elios with coating and I regret it. It was supposed to make it easier to get in. For the pants that is right, I don't need lube for it. But for the top I definitly need lube. First time I put the top on without lube (alone) I almost suffocated in it, because it wouldn't move any further over my head an shoulders. So now I need to use lube anyway and never put on or take off my top without assistance.
And compared to open cell, I belive that lube works better on open cell than on a coating.

 

[azapa]

it has been said many times, above too, but all non-lined suits should be put on with lube. Those slick coated linings are pure marketing. I would forget talc too, unless you like urine-smelling plaster of Paris.

 

[stingaree]

it has been said many times, above too, but all non-lined suits should be put on with lube. Those slick coated linings are pure marketing. I would forget talc too, unless you like urine-smelling plaster of Paris.

rofl

Agreed 100%, use talc powder for extended period of time and end-up with skin problems due friction, LUBE RULES. Also, if used on very thick(commercial) open cell wetties, puting it on (with talc) would turn it into a long exhausting struggle that would surelly attract some crowd.

 

[sam18]

Awesome thread very informative, was guna order a Cressi but the oceanos slick sounds better now

 

[DannyAbel]

I began to learn free diving last sunday. My coach tell everyone of us to buy one set of wetsuit. I am so confused about that.Because i don't know where i can buy it.