Both are under "ugly fish" category I won't shoot for me.
I have never had freshwater fish that I liked.
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ratfish I never shoot at anymore. Very neat-looking fish, chimaera,
I have never had freshwater fish that I liked.perch
You always have to factor in, if you don't shoot a fish, you (presumably) have to drive to the store, buy some hamburger meat that was grown on a chopped down piece of rainforest....I get your point. You (in the general sense) are just a grain of sand in the desert. An ant in the giant nest. What possibly could you do that would impact the world? The actions of a single person are too insignificant to measure, unless of course we're talking about individuals like Trump or Thunberg. But you and me? We can only live our lives, preferably in the way society expects it from us. Drive your car, do your job, don't think and definitely don't try to change anything.
That it is stupide to outlaw something on micro level while it is legally done on industrial scale I wholeheartedly agree (still doesn't mean that you should do it too simply because they are). But on this we can have exactly this same discussion. Would you try to do anything to change that law? I mean, as a single person your voice won't be heard, so why not just give up?
And some locales worry about spearos spearing at night or using a flashlight while spearing, give me a break...I saw a documentary a while back which showed a new "trawler" being built, in Scotland or northern England. Didn't look that big. I was shocked to hear it would be capable of landing up to 4 tons of mackerel in a single net full - what on earth are theythinking! $$$$££££ Not sustainability for sure. By my reckoning, the entire catch for all the spearos in the UK put together will be but a fraction of that one net full in an entire year. Hard to feel sympathy for commercial fisherman when they have fished their quarry and themselves out of business several times in the past, both here in GB and abroad.
If that were not bad enough:
Trawler 14 times the size of UK fishing boats is plundering fish from British waters before Brexit
A super trawler 14 times the size of UK fishing boats is plundering thousands of tonnes of fish from British waters before Brexit, when the Government will be able to kick the vessel out.www.telegraph.co.uk
I worry about anyone who doesn't put sustainability as a top priority.And some locales worry about spearos spearing at night or using a flashlight while spearing, give me a break...
I worry about anyone who doesn't put sustainability as a top priority.
I don’t feel that way. It might be because I’m a beginner and it’s still enough of a reward just to see a big, rare fish. I think I might shoot a grouper if I was with a group of friends, and to be able to add to the occasion. I feel the same about octopus.I saw a decent sized grouper the other day, a spotted one and I find them to be gorgeous. I did not take a shot probably because of the beauty.
I swam around and was not seeing much and started to really regret my decision. Does this happen to everyone?
Then I saw another spotted grouper later, smaller, and I shot it. I don't know what any of that means, but it was a good dinner.
That’s exactly my reasoning. A friend will tell me “how can you shoot the animals”. Then I think, if you eat meat then an animal is suffering, but you’re outsourcing the burden to someone else. The least we can do is own some of the responsibility. Plus we can be quicker about it.You always have to factor in, if you don't shoot a fish, you (presumably) have to drive to the store, buy some hamburger meat that was grown on a chopped down piece of rainforest....
That’s how I felt starting out too. I hit different small things to get the lay of the land and taste for myself. Good for the education I guess, target practice, getting a feel for the environment. It didn’t take long for me to set my goals.good discussion.
as a big game hunter first i understand the same dilema of shoot or not shoot.
sometimes choosing to eat a tag rather than harvest something that does not fit my goals for that hunt.
as a new spearo i find that i want to shoot plenty of fish as i learn to the hang of it and decide what i want to eat and pursue.
As i get more experience i will be more specific and target either certain species and or size or only shoot when i develop a specific method.
ultimately we all get to decide what is acceptable for us individually to shed blood for the food it provides and the challenge of the hunt.
That's what the Germanos are for.target practice
Can you explain me the reason for this obsession with groupers in Greece? It's not a fish that takes a lot of skill to catch. It tastes good and looks impressive, that's for sure, but seeing that people here put every fish, whatever the species, on the charcoal, I doubt that the taste would be the main reason.I think I might shoot a grouper if I was with a group of friends
It's not a fish that takes a lot of skill to catch.
That is terrible indeed.I'm still very new in Greece, so there's a lot of subcultural stuff I don't fully understand yet. Like smoking during dinner, for example (fork in one hand, cig in the other).
We don't have germanous here in the korinthiako just yet, at least not in my area. To think I thought those were all variations of the salpi when I first saw them.That's what the Germanos are for.For those taking offense in that remark, it's the Greek common name for the Dusky- and Marbled Spinefoot.
Can you explain me the reason for this obsession with groupers in Greece? It's not a fish that takes a lot of skill to catch. It tastes good and looks impressive, that's for sure, but seeing that people here put every fish, whatever the species, on the charcoal, I doubt that the taste would be the main reason.
* I'm still very new in Greece, so there's a lot of subcultural stuff I don't fully understand yet. Like smoking during dinner, for example (fork in one hand, cig in the other).
Everyone calls it a stupid fish. I like to think it's just too curious and trusting for its own good. Tiny fish dart away, does that mean they're smarter than the grouper?It is probably the stupidest fish in the Med. in contrast to Dentex.
That is terrible indeed.
Everyone calls it a stupid fish. I like to think it's just too curious and trusting for its own good. Tiny fish dart away, does that mean they're smarter than the grouper?
Dolphins are considered smart right? But it's not their brains that decide if they end up dead or not, it's human law. In some areas they will not be killed, in some parts they are massacred seasonally. And this has nothing to do with smart or stupid on the dolphins part. Humans decide who ends up on the BBQ.If your curiosity and trustiness causes you to end up on the BBQ as somebody's dinner, then you are not so smart. The fish that dart away are certainly wiser and smarter.
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