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Blood on mucus when clearing nose

Discussion in 'Beginner Freediving Q&A' started by JerechoSison, Apr 22, 2018.

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  1. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    Hi there! I have this problem of bleeding inside my nose (i think) when doing skin diving or swimming in the pool doing dynamic apnea. What is it that I'm doing wrong? Is this normal for beginners? Hope someone can enlighten me. Thanks a lot!
     
  2. Peter123

    Peter123 Member

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    Do you equalize?

    Happened to me regulary during deep diving and leaded to chronic sinus issues.
     
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  3. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    I do equalize up to around 5-6 m then the pain start to kick in on my ears ...when that happens i just resurface and try again..

    I see...how did you correct the bleeding? is it because of ineffective equalization?
     
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  4. Peter123

    Peter123 Member

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    If you would equalize correctly there would be no pain in the ears at any time. If you are interested in freediving or "advanced" snorkeling look out for a local freediving or basic divong club.

    You can also watch on youtube a video to equaliszation. Search for Adam Stern Equalization.
     
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  5. Mark Jeffery

    Mark Jeffery Well-Known Member

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    Some folks find equalizing extremely difficult or impossible due to their own individual physiology. If your tubes are very small and/or your muscle control around your ears is inadequate then you may not be able to equalize - even with all the training in the world.
     
  6. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    @Peter123 @Mark Jeffery Thanks for the suggestion! I've been watching it numerous times, especially the Frenzel method..I can do it on dry practice but upside down..recently I can equalize by combination of pinch, blow and tongue back. I am not successful on pinch tongue back action. A while ago I was equalizing comfortably by pinch,blow and tongue back, but I still notice blood on my mucus, what am I doing wrong? Is it that my nose is too sensitive from pinching? Thanks again!
     
  7. Mark Jeffery

    Mark Jeffery Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what the blood is from - it might be from pinching your nose. Do you get nose bleeds even when not diving? Some folks are more prone to nose bleeds in general than others.
     
  8. SubSub

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    I’m a nose bleeder, it can start bleeding from just waking and I’ve been like this from I was a kid. But this has never affected my abilities for eq. I dunno if it is a individual thing since I do it very easy but I have never felt the two are related. From my experience the nose bleed seldom come from far up the sinuses, but rather from the mucous membrane further down.
     
  9. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    @Mark Jeffery @SubSub these nose bleeds I encounter only when I start diving for a few attempts..so meaning I should not worry about this right?
     
  10. SubSub

    SubSub Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t say that. This doesn’t sound the same. Do you get them while experiencing pain anywhere?
     
  11. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    @SubSub pain that is tolerable from equalizing..but recently I practice dove for 4 m without any pain but still got blood from my mucus..not that bloody but traces of it...
     
  12. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    What to do? hehe
     
  13. Nathan Vinski

    Nathan Vinski Active Member

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    E.N.T

    A buddy of mine had a similar problem of bleeding after doing duck dives (2-4m) without any pain. He visited an ear, nose, & throat Dr. And had some scar tissue removed from his sinuses and the problme went away.

    Equalising shouldn't have any pain, and if there is pain it shouldn't be "tolerated". Stop the descent and end the dive.
     
  14. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    @Nathan Vinski i see..hmmm will visit at ent dr. soon..when his scar was removed how long did he took break from diving?
     
  15. ledo2

    ledo2 Member

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    Nathan is probably refering to nasal polyps which are quite common, especially if you had a lot of alergies...
    It is your best bet to check a specialist, and go on from there...
     
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  16. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    i might have that i think..because i do encounter sneezing and runny nose when salt/pool water stays in my nose..thanks for that info!
     
  17. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    update: no bleeding when multiple dives at 4 m hehe i guess it has something to do with equalization, just recently learned valsava/frenzel , now diving without pain, next is to learn to stay bottom for longer periods :)
     
  18. SubSub

    SubSub Well-Known Member

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    Great. Congrats. Don’t forget to buddy up! Most important thing to learn. Safety first.
     
  19. JerechoSison

    JerechoSison New Member

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    Yes sir! right now i'm managing it by not going too long at the bottom, and i'll teach my gf to skin dive too hehe