Dorset Spear Fishing 2011

[Camanche killer]

You're right but I couldn't find a bolt to fit to attach it yesterday. Bit of a last minute decision to go. I'll get a bolt for the next outing and hopefully get some good footage (edited to remove all traces of location of course).

Lol. Look forward it.

 

[Mr. X]

Super fish. What are conditions like at the coast today? Any visibility?

 

[misterlizard]

I was down at Burton Bradstock late this afternoon and the viz was 0 - 0.1m ! Still quite a swell running and the wind isn't helping. Grr.

 

[Mr. X]

I'd convinced myself not to head to the coast Sunday but the family practically forced me to go. Glad they did . Was surprised & disappointed to find a brisk wind in my face as I neared the beach (so much for the predicted north winds & west winds), looked rather choppy .

I needn't have worried, the visibility was good (10ft+) albeit cloudy/milky. Worryingly, I didn't see the hundreds of small 15cm-ish fish and small pollock that I normally see around this time of year. Near the end of the dive, I made the only definite bass sighting of the day, underneath me in shallow water - unusual location. I hesitated. Glad I did, it was small - not tiny but not much more than Minimum Landing Size (maybe 40cm?).

Would have been a great day out but the wind picked up as I was coming in, causing a nausea inducing swell:yack, which made towing the float, large spider crab & a couple of fishes hard work. Thought my speargun was shooting a tad high last season, with its new wishbone - but it was spot on yesterday, so probably just me last year. It was mainly sunny but clouded over some later on - apparently it rained a little on shore but I hadn't noticed it.

 

[chrisreynolds]

Hi chaps

i need some advice from the dyneema users amongst you.

i recently decided to re rig my favorite little gun (along with paint jobs for all my guns) with dyneeme. someone mentioned to me that crimping it was maybe not the best solution and that tying it is better so i tied it at the spear attachment (see pics) but now i'm a bit concerned that its too big (the knot) and its affecting the spears release from the muzzle. i had a similar problem before and it took me a while to realize that it was the excess mono sticking out of the crimp that was catching on the muzzle on firing. easily sorted by removing the 1cm long excess.

any thoughts and ideas on making this better will be gratefully received.

(its also a bit awkward when reloading the gun, trying to push the butt of the spear through the muzzle opening with the knot on top...)

its the first time i've used it this year and i still managed a nice fish but i want to get it sorted incase i come across a F.O.Y. fish..........

(oh by the way, Mr. X, the guns in the previous pics are a Cressi SL 70 and a Cressi Comanche 60)

 

[Paul Smith]

Hi Chris
I have found that it is best to use a spear with two holes & just post through the hold nearest trigger first & then out the hole that is not within mechanism & then tie a single not on the end - clear as mud - I'll see if I can attach photo... Er can't do it from iPhone? I'll mail it to you

Photo added from PC

 

[Mr. X]

Paul's idea sounds good. I sometimes use wrapping cord to "splice" the loop (I may be using wrong terminology) - originally suggested by Magpie as an alternative to crimps. I don't use a knot, instead wrap thin cord around the 2 ends of the loop for about 1.5cm. I tie the cord off at both ends (actually just use a separate short loop of cord to pull the end back in under several of the end loop - keeps it neat) but then superglue (or varnish?) it all to ensure it all stays put. It works well and is very low profile.

[The cord is available from boat yards, chandlers, etc.]

Whichever approach you use, you might want to try melting the end of the cord with a soldering iron/lighter to stop it fluffing up & perhaps "mushroom" it out to prevent it pulling through. I know that's not as easy/effective with Dyneema/Spectra as with nylon/perlon - but I believe the sheath is usually nylon, so that bit at least will usually melt.

Thanks for the info. on your spearguns Chris. I was comparing my 75cm to my fins yesterday and figured it was a little longer than yours compared to your fins, so did wonder if it might be a 60cm. Hadn't heard of any UK spearos using the 60cm Commanche before - clearly it works.

 

[fearthespear]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

A video of some dorset pollack for you all. They weren't bad fish but naturally I waited for the biggie to emerge out of the murk. Er, it didn't turn up!...
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[podge]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

A video of some dorset pollack for you all. They weren't bad fish but naturally I waited for the biggie to emerge out of the murk. Er, it didn't turn up!...
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Ben I reckon you’ve put up a wrong link? Unless you’re into David Bowie, Katy Perry, Amex or some bloke called Nerimon??roflrofl
Or is it just my computer that’s following a wrong-un??

 

[fearthespear]

You're absolutely right - tried to do it from my phone - fail...

Try this

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvWAV5TIFVc]YouTube - pollack.MPG[/ame]

 

[Gaz D]

Hi chaps

i need some advice from the dyneema users amongst you.

i recently decided to re rig my favorite little gun (along with paint jobs for all my guns) with dyneeme. someone mentioned to me that crimping it was maybe not the best solution and that tying it is better so i tied it at the spear attachment (see pics) but now i'm a bit concerned that its too big (the knot) and its affecting the spears release from the muzzle. i had a similar problem before and it took me a while to realize that it was the excess mono sticking out of the crimp that was catching on the muzzle on firing. easily sorted by removing the 1cm long excess.

any thoughts and ideas on making this better will be gratefully received.

(its also a bit awkward when reloading the gun, trying to push the butt of the spear through the muzzle opening with the knot on top...)

its the first time i've used it this year and i still managed a nice fish but i want to get it sorted incase i come across a F.O.Y. fish..........

(oh by the way, Mr. X, the guns in the previous pics are a Cressi SL 70 and a Cressi Comanche 60)

Mate, I don't know what the text book answer is but I use a re-threaded figure of eight, with a larger loop, to do the same job on one of my guns (I'll show you how to do it). Or you could try whipping it, as Mr X suggested (although not sure if the varnish thing would be corrosive to the dyneema or not).

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EDIT: I've just had a look at that other gun I was on about and it turns out to be an open muzzle, so not the same situation that you've got - although the re-threaded figure of eight, with larger loop, might still work for you, as it looks like a slightly lower profile knot to me.

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[Camanche killer]

Got out last friday afternoon for a dip down Portland way 1m to 4m viz just befor high tide. Loads of spider crabs about but left them as they don't really float my boat. Also lots of Mullet shooting around the sandy patches just off the edge of the reef, took one of them and waited for Mr Bass to show, but that never happened. Got really cold and my hand went white and dead so that was the end of that! Anyone else have this problem? I think it might be related to using power tools...nerve damage from all the vibrations? Would be interested to hear from you if you did.
Nice to meet James and Ricky when I got out. Any joy lads?

Sunday, I went out on the spearbus and found some great viz just off shore. Had a nice dive and took some footage, which is attached. Felt a bit dodgy after a few hours of getting washed about and we decided to call it a day.

 

[fishfox]

Hi chaps

i need some advice from the dyneema users amongst you.

i recently decided to re rig my favorite little gun (along with paint jobs for all my guns) with dyneeme. someone mentioned to me that crimping it was maybe not the best solution and that tying it is better so i tied it at the spear attachment (see pics) but now i'm a bit concerned that its too big (the knot) and its affecting the spears release from the muzzle. i had a similar problem before and it took me a while to realize that it was the excess mono sticking out of the crimp that was catching on the muzzle on firing. easily sorted by removing the 1cm long excess.

any thoughts and ideas on making this better will be gratefully received.

(its also a bit awkward when reloading the gun, trying to push the butt of the spear through the muzzle opening with the knot on top...)

its the first time i've used it this year and i still managed a nice fish but i want to get it sorted incase i come across a F.O.Y. fish..........

(oh by the way, Mr. X, the guns in the previous pics are a Cressi SL 70 and a Cressi Comanche 60)

Hi Chris, I use the same as Paul Smith except I use a figure of eight stop knot. Keep an eye out for wear at the point the cord passes through the spear. It works for me.

Well done with the last bass.

 

[James T]

Nice to meet James and Ricky when I got out. Any joy lads?

Hi Kev - yes nice to put face to name. It was cold mate. We went home without any fish Friday but was good training and very useful as tried two new spots (which we won't bother with again )

That spot we saw you looks like it would be on fire at night mate.

James

 

[James T]

You're absolutely right - tried to do it from my phone - fail...

Try this

YouTube - pollack.MPG

Nice breathold Ben!

 

[Camanche killer]

Hi Kev - yes nice to put face to name. It was cold mate. We went home without any fish Friday but was good training and very useful as tried two new spots (which we won't bother with again )

That spot we saw you looks like it would be on fire at night mate.

James

I'm sure it would some nice bass have been taken there over the years! Daylight hours can be a bit hit and miss, probably more miss than hit but a nice safe dive none the less!

Kev

 

[chrisreynolds]

Thanks for the replies on the dyneema subject chaps....very helpful.

Thanks for the photo paul, looks like a good solution but unfortunately i only have the one hole in the 60 spear.:head

Gaz, is a rethreaded figure of eight the same as you'd use on a climbing harness... i think i can tie one of those but any help would be appreciated.....i'll give it a go and see.

 

[Camanche killer]

Thanks for the replies on the dyneema subject chaps....very helpful.

Thanks for the photo paul, looks like a good solution but unfortunately i only have the one hole in the 60 spear.:head

Gaz, is a rethreaded figure of eight the same as you'd use on a climbing harness... i think i can tie one of those but any help would be appreciated.....i'll give it a go and see.

Chris,

Put spear into clamp and drill with a 2mm steel drill bit, that is what I did to mine. It's easier than you think!

Edit: run a fine curved metal file over the entry point of drill to make it easier to start drill off. Stops it slipping off the curved edge.

 

[Gaz D]

Thanks for the replies on the dyneema subject chaps....very helpful.

Thanks for the photo paul, looks like a good solution but unfortunately i only have the one hole in the 60 spear.:head

Gaz, is a rethreaded figure of eight the same as you'd use on a climbing harness... i think i can tie one of those but any help would be appreciated.....i'll give it a go and see.

Yep, same as climbing harness mate: put a loose figure of eight in the line, leaving a long tail, then thread the tail through the hole in the spear and bring it back to the figure of eight, and then thread the tail through the original figure of eight, following the path of the knot, in the reverse direction, until you end up with what is basically a figure of eight on the bite - presto! You may need to to fiddle and adjust the size of the loop, so that it doesn't interfere with the loading of the gun (eg. it doesn't get in the way of the spear notch), and then tighten, snip and melt the end of the tail.

You can then adjust the length of the line from the other end (the boingee end).

It might work.


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[misterlizard]

Any viz anywhere? Haven't been in for weeks :-(