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FOM/SH Discussion thread for 2013
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JKS that trophy does look cool - good job Mirror!!!
Please vote for your choice of Fish of the Month for April 2013:
http://forums.deeperblue.com/uk-ireland/97631-poll-april-2013-fom.html
Dont forget you can enter your crabs & lobbies for the crustacean cup too...
http://forums.deeperblue.com/uk-ireland/97419-crustacean-cup.html
Please vote for your choice of Fish of the Month for April 2013:
http://forums.deeperblue.com/uk-ireland/97631-poll-april-2013-fom.html
Dont forget you can enter your crabs & lobbies for the crustacean cup too...
http://forums.deeperblue.com/uk-ireland/97419-crustacean-cup.html
Thats ridiculous, its like saying one shouldn't kill or eat a sardine or mackeral?
Topknot | Britishseafishing.co.uk
Topknot got my vote also, I like seeing rare elusive fish in the FOM. Sometimes we can get confused into thinking its a Bass FOM
Also as long as a fish is of a mature age size doesn't matter... unless they are big slow growing creatures.
Sand eels are a delicacy on the med... they are caught with cast nets or regular nets. They taste lovely. If I could shoot one I would but I doubt I could.
PS 5kg of baitfish such as above is consumed to make 1kg of salmon etc. so in terms of sustainability... bait fish is the sensible option.
Anyway, the size of a fish is immaterial, what we do not advocate is shooting "juvenile" fish... If a small fish is mature then in some cases this "should" be what you target instead of shooting a juvenile but bigger fish!
PS 5kg of baitfish such as above is consumed to make 1kg of salmon etc. so in terms of sustainability... bait fish is the sensible option.
Anyway, the size of a fish is immaterial, what we do not advocate is shooting "juvenile" fish... If a small fish is mature then in some cases this "should" be what you target instead of shooting a juvenile but bigger fish!
In Dorset I have seen topknots on numerous occasions, often sat on rocks. Alan seen one last month too. During the summer I see two or three on almost every dive at a certain location.
I will reiterate what I have said on the Dorset thread yesterday............about being legal, safe, on your conscience and worthy of the table.
In this instance I do have to agree with Bro. An 8oz fish sat on a rock is niether 'sporting' or worthy of the table due to it's size and thus It would not sit well on my conscience. It doesn't have to be sporting; but at least big enough to eat, coupled with it's rarity. ....my 'opinion' is a no no.
I was pleased to hear that the specci comp this year has put the size up to a reasonable stamp of fish. As last year I think a few peeps took fish smaller than they would normally; for the glory. I took a trigger and a gurnard last year, legal size, but smaller that I would have normally took.
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I will reiterate what I have said on the Dorset thread yesterday............about being legal, safe, on your conscience and worthy of the table.
In this instance I do have to agree with Bro. An 8oz fish sat on a rock is niether 'sporting' or worthy of the table due to it's size and thus It would not sit well on my conscience. It doesn't have to be sporting; but at least big enough to eat, coupled with it's rarity. ....my 'opinion' is a no no.
I was pleased to hear that the specci comp this year has put the size up to a reasonable stamp of fish. As last year I think a few peeps took fish smaller than they would normally; for the glory. I took a trigger and a gurnard last year, legal size, but smaller that I would have normally took.
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Absolute b*****ks. Shooting tiny fish is killing for the sake of killing. Nothing more.
Should also be stated that topknot are not rare, difficult to find yes, but certainly not rare or endangered.
We come across lots stuck to the underside of boulders when looking for ormers (big shelfish). To find one spearing is quite impressive, I've only ever seen a couple diving and both were caught in nets at the time, as a result it got my vote.
We come across lots stuck to the underside of boulders when looking for ormers (big shelfish). To find one spearing is quite impressive, I've only ever seen a couple diving and both were caught in nets at the time, as a result it got my vote.
Sure... and I'm sure you storm out of a restaurant in disgust when they serve you shrimp or prawns...
:hmm
Ironically, I don't eat prawns.
Seriously, have fun in you blenny spearing competition. It'll be so exciting to see a new species in the FOM.
Your ethical position is almost as laughable as your argument.
I'd much rather an ethically sourced fish than a prawn (not sure I need to tell ye where commercially sourced fish comes from but ) Fresh fish? The VERY unsavoury truth about your prawn cocktail... and that supposedly fresh fish on the supermarket counter | Mail Online or Twitter asks supermarkets: What are your prawns eating? - Telegraph But really you can find any link to them which explains about a prawns life and even death and how it got to your plate.
A spear to a fish with a quick dispatch IS the best, quickest, most ethical way of killing ANY fish of ANY size...
I see two arguments here.
1) Its wrong to kill and eat a small but mature fish.
2) Killing and eating tiny little fishes is OK, as long as its not with a spear.
Which argument are you both in favour of?
Doesn't matter, they are both naive.
Ethically sourced fish is what I eat and what I am about... I do not buy fish or eat any that I dont know who caught it. I do not loose sleep if a dogfish is killed either, tho I know some have a soft spot for those sea puppies...
A spear to a fish with a quick dispatch IS the best, quickest, most ethical way of killing ANY fish of ANY size...
I see two arguments here.
1) Its wrong to kill and eat a small but mature fish.
2) Killing and eating tiny little fishes is OK, as long as its not with a spear.
Which argument are you both in favour of?
Doesn't matter, they are both naive.
The only naivety I can see is you trying to compare shooting a single, very small, wild fish, with with getting served farmed prawns in a restaurant. I'm guessing you were never first pick for the debating team...
I personally wouldn't take a small fish, end of story. Anyone who does, well, I think that perfectly reflects what type of person they are.
I personally wouldn't take a small fish, end of story. Anyone who does, well, I think that perfectly reflects what type of person they are.
sorry, the debating team was not the sort of people I hung out with at school
no offense to you and your 'hobby'ya, I can see what sort of a person you could be too... Go out hunting... Pass up a few lurvely cute rabbits and shoot a cow
food is food, meat is meat any personification or characterising of fish with human related standards is daft ( all be it a common phenomena with certain people). You think any other predator gives a toss about size? You think a shark etc. Would pass up a topknot? Or what about whales that eat shoals of baitfish? No... Cos they are not daft hippies
(not implying you are so no offense!)