Hypoxic training muscle specific ?

[Tommy_R]

Hi,

I'm sorry if i missed an answer here in the board but i couldn't find a satisfying one in all the apnea walk dicussions.

You can get your "body" used to low oxygen levels by, for example, frc apnea walks. Hope i am right so far.

If i would like to train for CNF do i have to train my arms for that kind of stress, or is the effect of the training affecting the whole body?

Does hypoxia training have to be muscle specific for the muscles you use most in your discipline ( like weightlifting ) or is it a "Whole body" adaptation ( like getting more stamina through cardio ) ?


Tommy

 

[Kimmo]

I guess you may have got the point


- kimmo

 

[Mullins]

Doesn't seem to be muscle specific - that's why I can suddenly switch to nofins and do reasonable distances with no prior training, and Will Trubridge can do 110m+ with a monofin

Of course, muscle failure can be a bit of a problem.

 

[Will]

are you hassling my legs Dave?

 

[Mullins]

Naa, given my lousy upper body strength and correspondingly poor CNF it'd be a case of stones & glasshouses.

 

[jay cluskey]

it makes me laugh when gifted divers like you 2 guys still find something you are not happy with.
i saw you do 150 dnf 2 weeks ago will i still cant get my head around how quickly you move through the water

 

[Will]

Hey Jay, there's always work to be done
Underwater breaststroke must be a lot quicker than on the surface because even I can swim faster than WR 50m breastroke pace, and I don't train speed. In my tinkering with DNF it seems like 1m/s is about a good compromise between speed and O2 economy though.

 

[Tony Babowicz]

Hey Jay, there's always work to be done
Underwater breaststroke must be a lot quicker than on the surface because even I can swim faster than WR 50m breastroke pace, and I don't train speed. In my tinkering with DNF it seems like 1m/s is about a good compromise between speed and O2 economy though.

You must be flying. The world record for 50m breaststroke is 26.89 sec. It was just set last month in Brazil by Felipe Franca. You would have to swim a 25m in 13sec!! Thats about 2x the speed I swim dnf. My 50's are about 52-58sec. I have done lots of 50m dnf sprints and I do them in 42-46sec. You might be a little faster than that, but if you could do that in 26seconds, you need to change careers and train for the olympics.

 

[Will]

26.89? I'm not up to date then. The only time I've had someone else time it was 14.5" for 25m, with a regular push off the wall to start.
I did a split 100m today (you're allowed to come up for air after each 25m) in 1'11", but I've never tried sprinting a 50 or 100, or with a flying start. I know I'd be a lot slower on the surface - I have little concept of the correct timing or body position.

 

[Tony Babowicz]

Thats still a quite impressive time for 100m. At 17seconds per length, you are one of the fastest dnf guys. Do you glide at all or just constant swim?

 

[Will]

No, that was going for speed over the 100, with a breath or two between lengths because I was sprinting (no glide). It's a training exercise and has nothing to do with how I'd swim a long DNF.

 

[jay cluskey]

take it from me tony he can certainly move

 

[chrismar]

No, that was going for speed over the 100, with a breath or two between lengths because I was sprinting (no glide). It's a training exercise and has nothing to do with how I'd swim a long DNF.

I take it that race pace is ~1m/s? I'm a touch slower (27-28s per 25m) when doing 2 strokes/length.