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Ireland Spearing, 2011

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Hi Vasile, first of all great post and we should all think seriously about this subject.

I´m totally in for it, but probably more around November/December, but having more less like a structure of this eventual course could be also a good idea to "promote" the course himself.

Does anyone know some places and conditions, like in Blanchardstown Aquatic Center, etc. for doing some such event?

Feargus might have some suggestions since that he is a bit more inside "the business" :) ...!

Pedro
The idea with the location is to recreate the conditions where we dive to be able to do some real hands on practice in the water and on the shore or boat etc.We'll see if anyone is interested and we will decide the location to suit everyone.
 
Not sure what to do, personally I would love to see him lose his licence and a hefty fine. Ultimately it's up to Choker to take it further if he wants, either the guy on the boat didn't see the camera or else he just doesn't give a S**T. He also seems to be taking photos himself to what end I don't know.
If it had been me I would have told him where to go and definitely reported him. Going to the press could open a can of worms, but this guy put the lives of other water users in serious danger and should not get away with it, well that's my two cents anyway.
 
Jesus.... talk about anglers giving stick...what about this!!
Choker... Report that man... he should have his license taken away... absolute imbecile almost running over the dive flag... Completely illegal and racist!
A fisherman is angry on spearfishers.

Where is all the love gone?

Again...your camera has some benefits ;)
I would strongly advise guys to provide the coast guards with a track report,were you fish,for how long and when you plan to return to shore.They can be contacted at 016620922.Cost nothing and if something happen they know where to look for.I'll say we will get a lot more of this aggressive behavior ...Don't know what make this idiot to stop driving his boat over you guys.. you were very lucky!
 
Hey bob.
I was watching it this morning. I was gonna post it up.
I was weak....the best part of the video is when ur man says to choker" these are Irish waters so now feck off"
Ha ha ha ha. I am still laughing man!!!!!
Report that c&nt!!!!!!
 
I do not see the point of going to the media...
But you must go to the cops and show them the footage and press charges....
Never mind his ignorance and racist manor, if he was driving a car he'd be done for dangerous driving. I'd feel a lot saver in the water knowing that idiot had been dealt with.
 
yeah actually showing something like that, him being filmed without his knowledge could get messy. Defo get the guards involved but have them briefed on the legality of spearfishing first so that they aint coming back with misinformation.
 
Just watched it again....What a WAN@$!!! I would have told him to Fu%& OFF !!
Racist mother FU*&!....... who is he calling a vulture, polluting our waters with his rust bucked "GEMINI L32" Taking what he wants for money and putting feck all back.
Next time you see him: shishkebab him with your spear for all of us.
I would have found it hard to have kept calm and probably have been in jail tonight!
 
Like I said it's up to Choker if I can track down the boat owner in 10mins I'm sure the guards can too. Feargus's point about him being filmed without his knowledge is valid but in the circumstances I'm sure it's mute. Also the Fisherman took photo's himself without asking permission. It will be interesting to see what if anything develops from this nasty incident.
 
On another note. My brother just returned home from a tuna fishing trip. He was measuring and observing bycatch particularly dolphins. No bycatch but they took 65 ton in 6 days pair trawling.
50 boats at it the same time. 120 miles off Kerry. How long can that be sustained? Majority French and Spanish trawlers and all being sold on mainland Europe.
I've been given two spots locally where u might find them too;-)
All albacore around the 10-40 lb range. A big sword caught too.......
 
I've been given two spots locally where u might find them too;-)
All albacore around the 10-40 lb range. A big sword caught too.......

So when we planning a raid.... presume you gotta do a few shifts with the nappies and night feeds first ;)

Few reports and nice pics on the angling forums of the albacore hunting in the SW ;)
 
I completely empathise with everybodies justified anger at this racist and dangerous fisherman, but hold off on the threats to spear him lads. His act of aggression should not be met with another but dealt with by the proper authorities. You can not justify shooting someone like that unless in self defence and you're in immediate harm. I would hate for anyone reading these threads to get the impression that we're likely to spear someone at any provocation.

I personally hope that Choker reports this guy to the guards, fishing authorities and to the coast guard, that boat was used as a weapon to intimidate a diver and interfered with his personal safety. He would be helpless to defend himself against it and its as good as pointing a loaded shotgun at him, he entered the area disregarding the divers markers and safety while even ramming into it. I'm sure Choker was in fear for his life during that exchange...I know I would be keeping my mouth shut when in such a vulnerable position.

As for filming the incident, I don't see a problem with that...it was a public place and the diver did not deliberately set out to film the fisherman or his thuggish behaviour. There may be a problem broadcasting identifying information especially if legal proceedings are to follow, I'm not a legal expert but I'm reasonably sure about this. You may be able to obscure the boat name/markings and the culprits face using editing software and put it back up on Youtube. It certainly is worth keeping it up there as I'm sure any diver/water user will be horrified by and can learn from this.

I really do hope this guy is brought up on this, he's a menace and I'm sorry to say there are more out there just like him. Unfortunately, if no action is taken on this, he and others will feel free to do it again and the consequences could be more tragic. I don't know how Choker feels about reporting it but this could happen to any of us.
 
Hello guys! I about that video with fisherman. I don't want any kind of revenge to him or punishment. Therefore I don't report anywhere. This video shows that despite of precautions as alpha flag we should to be more careful. When I was underwater I couldn't determine position of the boat and where it comes from. I started come to the surface when noise of engine faded putting my gun forward just in case. Additionally a floating line from boy was connected to speargun's butt, not to my belt. Afterwards I talked to my buddy on video. He told me that didn't hear any noise of engine. He saw the boat when it was in front of him. Very strange, even on video the noise was loud. Conclusion is safety first ! :)
 
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