Night Spearfishing

[arrowloopboy]

Whats the general opinion on night diving lads ?
A fellow Spearo classes it as akin to poaching ,as the quarry cant see you as your blinding them ,similar to lamping Deer or Rabbit,and as I don't fully agree with him ,its a very fair point.
Thoughts .........

 

[Highlander]

Whats the general opinion on night diving lads ?
A fellow Spearo classes it as akin to poaching ,as the quarry cant see you as your blinding them ,similar to lamping Deer or Rabbit,and as I don't fully agree with him ,its a very fair point.
Thoughts .........

Can be very productive, I am unsure of the 'blinding' of the fish, as they have other means of detecting danger, like the lateral line, which I believe the put to good use when detecting danger & prey. Probably not very sporting, but depends if you think of spearfishing as a sport. Some people can only get out at night, as they work during the day on shifts.
I believe the fish are less active at night or inactive depends on your point of view, meaning they are more docile. I do a bit of both, but mostly day dives during the summer, I only do a bit of night dives during the winter when the days are short & can only get out at night. The day dives are great when you have the vis & I do enjoy that, with stalking of your fish, I enjoy all the structures at night laying low in "ambush" (is that sporting?) or stalking them.
When night diving, I don't only encounter fish, but lobbies come out a bit more, your torch lights them a nice colour & not forgetting cuttlefish & squid. I encountered a massive squid late last year on southerly spot with Cesar & it was as long as my arm(body) & it was all shimmering with different colours, like the movie of the alien in the Abyss. I didn't take it, I was just transfixed by it below me.
So there is other life out there apart from the fish, that potentially I would not have seen during the day.

 

[speerolee]

just find the motivation...and jump in arrowloopy

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[arrowloopboy]

just find the motivation...and jump in arrowloopy

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Oh I already have speerogee ,and while I do enjoy an occasional night dive ,I find it more sporting when I'm not blinding my quarry with a lamp.

 

[speerolee]

Blinding ???? news to me? that's the trouble with you newbies...all the gear and no idea

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[speerolee]

you probably best stick with day dives. get a few real fish under your belt, get your fitness up to standard. give it a few years, enter a pointless comp with a few trophies...then ptetend you're a true spearfisherman.

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[arrowloopboy]

Blinding ???? news to me? that's the trouble with you newbies...all the gear and no idea

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Its news to you that if you shine 800 or 1000 lumens into anythings eyes at about 5 yards that its blinding ,.Now you don't have to be a member of MENSA to realise that .

 

[arrowloopboy]

you probably best stick with day dives. get a few real fish under your belt, get your fitness up to standard. give it a few years, enter a pointless comp with a few trophies...then ptetend you're a true spearfisherman.

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We don't do ''competitions'' over here ,their senseless nonsense in my opinion .
I'm in training Lee ,so I can be as good as you ,someone at the pinnacle of our sport,you and your Lamp .

 

[speerolee]

If you had absolutely any idea.......then you would realise that shining a bright torch at a fish is a big big NO NO! bass and bream especially hate torch light!! *tip of yhe day* do NOT point your torch at a fish!! they will boom off into oblivion.

If you just asl politely; I'm happy to gice you advice on spearing for freeee!

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[scrumpy]

Lee
Don't waste your time on Arrowfloppy mate. Happy for him to come over and learn the ropes!!
Also if thats the case, can someone tell my bloody bass that if the torch is on them not to dart off into the gloom

 

[arrowloopboy]

If you had absolutely any idea.......then you would realise that shining a bright torch at a fish is a big big NO NO! bass and bream especially hate torch light!! *tip of yhe day* do NOT point your torch at a fish!! they will boom off into oblivion.

If you just asl politely; I'm happy to gice you advice on spearing for freeee!

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Aah Lee's ,theirs no advice/tips needed ,I do occasionally night dive ,its easy ,unsportingly easy,any half wit could shoot a stringer full of bass using a lamp,very little skill required .

 

[jpp]

Lamping with a rifle or shotgun is no different from shooting in the daytime but what is different is that there is a lot more quarry out at night. Contrary to belief not every thing is frozen in the beam. Lots of people say that lamping hares at night with a dog is easier than during the day and granted you an get nearer to the hare at night but it is by no means easy to catch them on the lamp. Personally even though I shoot as well as hunt rabbits with a dog on the lamp ((which is still legal) I consider shooting to be less sporting to hunting with a dog. Shooting can indiscriminate in the fact you can kill any animal with ease where as hunting with a dog is much harder and you are likely to only catch the weak the old and the stupid leaving a healthy population. Hunting has not been helped by bickering amongst the field sports fraternity and ammunition was given to the antis which gradually chip away at the sports we do have.
My point is each person to their own, All could be considered unsporting both day and night by some people (rod and line anglers for instance). Personally I like day and night spearfishing and believe if that's what you want to do you should be able to do so. If you don't agree with it don't do it but don't decry those that want to it just gives ammunition to people who would like to ban all field sports.

 

[mirror]

If you had absolutely any idea.......then you would realise that shining a bright torch at a fish is a big big NO NO! bass and bream especially hate torch light!! *tip of yhe day* do NOT point your torch at a fish!! they will boom off into oblivion. ^
tip of the night perhaps ?
I am now perplexed ! If you do not point your torch at the fish how the f%&$ do you know where they are and able to aim a shot ? Why have a torch ? ( this is meant light heartedly !!lol)

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[speerolee]

ha ha...
The trick is to just catch the silver flank of a bass, then imeadeatly take the torch beam off the fish, however keep it just on the edge of the light so u can still just about see it's reflection. you then need to determine the path of the fish dive down without a splash and get in front of it's path and wait....you often need a very good breath hold and be overweighted to stay on the bottom in shallow water.

mullet tend to be more docile, salmon and garfish will swim at you with a torch. Bream are 'almost' impossible to get in range at night. I've only ever had 1 gilthead over 3lb on nights...but seen loads.

 

[arrowloopboy]

Theirs no need for diving or breath hold on this side of the Irish sea Lee,without exaggerating ,if the vis is reasonable,theirs no night I couldn't shoot 20 Bass in 3-5ft of water ,in a decent mark,and not just 3/5lbrs ,Bass to 10lbs plus.

 

[Broseidon]

Without exaggerating ,if the vis is reasonable,theirs no night I couldn't shoot 20 Bass in 3-5ft of water ,in a decent mark,and not just 3/5lbrs ,Bass to 10lbs plus.

This sounds remarkably like bull sh*t.

 

[arrowloopboy]

This sounds remarkably like bull sh*t.

I fully agree Bro,it SOUNDs remarkably like bullshit,. thankfully ...............................

 

[Trelawney]

One dive spot will fish differently to another, even within a mile of each other, let alone two different countries, so anything is possible. On the South Cornish/Devon coast, I've had some big 8+lb bass in 4ft of water at night. The last one I shot, I stood up into chest high water to string it. They were all that shallow that particular night, but the next night, there were none to be seen.

 

[speerolee]

I had a 12lb 3oz last summer in 2m of water within 10 mins of my dive I couldn't blind the bugger with my torch as he had his head stuck in kelp pretending to be invisible! spear 1 inch from head, took shot and stoned it dead...not very exiting, but like trelaweny said, each spot on different nights present different challenges or in this case 'ease'...

 

[spearo Clark]

Aah Lee's ,theirs no advice/tips needed ,I do occasionally night dive ,its easy ,unsportingly easy,any half wit could shoot a stringer full of bass using a lamp,very little skill required .

Lol....Jealousy jealousy........where's your halfwit pics!