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Night Spearfishing

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Lots of divers have come across gill nets while spearfishing, they are potentially death traps for human as well as fish!

It would be awful to hear about a night diver drowning because he (she) was trapped in one, everything at night becomes more hazardous!
Please be very carful if diving in the dark.

Regardless of any personal opinions about spear fishing at night - any risk factor is increased tenfold.
Perhaps some of you guys with experience of diving at night could post how you deal with the extra responsibility that goes with the activity?

We have lost lots of posting members in recent years but, this forum is still read by many thousands of people every week.
If we are going to discus or even promote night diving, then it would be prudent to discus the safety factor & the extra responsibility of encouraging inexperienced people to dive at night.
 
You only need a license to sell the fish not to use a gill net
So you are basically telling me that any numpty can set as many gill nets as he likes for bass ,so basically ,the only saltwater gamefish in the u.k ,has zero protection,and by reading alot of the u.k threads ,ye are wondering about the lack of bass that ye are seeing ,that's a tough one to figure out.
Who ever runs your fisheries are a bunch of numpties,thank God we here in Ireland have a forward thinking department for the marine/natural resources ,that's an absolute joke if the above info is correct,can someone confirm that this is the case in the u.k ?
 
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You sure you weren't looking at Liam Neason tonight in Taken,I will find you ,bla bla bla ,that's absolutely hilarious lee
 
There is nothing new or unique with regards to night diving and some have been up to it going back decades. Without blowing smoke up his ass Lee's swiftly got some fish to his name in these past years and clearly his dedication to the graveyard shift is somewhat unique as most of us just cant be a$$ed or have other limitations to putting in the time spearing 24/7 year round in the cold UK!
And rightly as has been said if you put in the dedication you shall reap the rewards.
I enjoy the night harvest myself particularly the flatfish and have done ever since I first tried it with dodgy Lidl torches taped to the gun with Weymouth boy Glowworm years ago off Dorset shores.
I have no problems with it as long as the fish are not tadpoles. Recent entrants to spearo tapping off tiddlers while holding their balls is pretty silly and will never make you a hero in any book because you knew full well before you pull a trigger its under size. When in doubt, don't.
We are VERY VERY lucky to be able to night dive.......I am under no illusion that its probably something that would be a huge points scorer for the IFCA's to ban and bring into line with other EU fisheries policies......I cannot stress enough for you to think before you pump it all over the net! You will never win a debate with policy makers, just look at Scottish airgun licencing!

Illegal gill-netting (often by local fishermen topping up!) and pair trawling spawning grounds I do have a problem with but the fishing mafia seem to hold too much sway with fisheries policy and we are not even recognisable to them.

I am protectionist also in that I cant stand 'all' spots being spread around like margarine in the context of the divers still to come in the next twenty years. Keep it between you and a mate or two.......Some spots are obvious but then sometimes that's somebodies local too.
Let newcomers research harder, take a freedive/spearo course, let them make spearo contacts , PM's, bump into people by actually going to the beach, let them learn to read charts, forecasts, maps and find photos themselves.
Don't put it on a silver platter PARTICULARLY for shoredive locations.
Why help concentrate a problem? Its a problem if I drive somewhere for a session and spot even just 2 divers getting out with a stringer full (particularly at night).
It IS happening with spearo....It HAS happened to surfing in the UK and its the same principle but worse because there are infinite waves and generally you could still surf most conditions and be rewarded.
I think about how much the spearo community has exploded/born again since my first UK dives in 1993 here in Newquay and personally I'm all for keeping the detail on the down low!
Obviously the industry in the UK is keen to sell kit and to sell kit you need numbers but the point is its not an infinite resource we are hitting on here in the UK spearo scene in terms of quality fish, and quality locations to catch them in.
Showing us a good catch excites no matter what and if you're bitter towards another spearo then perhaps more time in the water and less on the keyboard is the only way to get the fish in the fridge.
Protect your UK spearing future, for we have definitely turned a corner
 
very wise words from an obviously switched on and intelligent person, that has put in the hours and dedication.

well said.
 
Amen to that fellas. Part of the attraction for me, as it has been in rod and line fishing, is to study things, look at maps and tide charts, google earth and whatever else, and understand what fish are doing for myself then put that into practice and get some results by my own design( or my close buddies). For me I have never really enjoyed charter boat trips as the hunt, or whatever you call it, has been taken away. So yeah, I might be a newb but I'm really enjoying the spearing and would always choose to put in the legwork and work at it to get results which might not be great now ( who wants to eat fat bass anyway!)but at least it's under my own steam, and will always protect favourite marks from the grockels!
 
Just read this back and it sounds a bit self centred! Just wanted to show my thoughts as a newbie.ATB
 
Scrumpy and Speerolee have inspired me to try the dark side. To be honest the only ideas on night spearing i have have come from this thread. Any other advice spearing at night would be appreciated. Will my day time approach of lie and wait in ambush work at night?, I cant see any fish/bass investigating a torch beam. Any tips on safety would be good as I'm sightly bloody scared at diving at night!, will start with shallows close to shore. Do you guys use a float with a light? or is a float a pain in the arse? Main torch on order cant wait to give it a go.
 
Just a quick tip - lying in wait doesn't work at all at night, you need to keep on the move, searching a wide area as you swim. That's part of the attraction for me - I like keeping on the move and covering a large area.
 
Yep, keep on the move. Swim a Zig Zag pattern if you want, but try and maintain a quiet, relaxed profile in the water, i.e. no splashing from your fins, and nice slow torch sweeps.
 
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