I was under the impression that they had to be licensed - might be wrong though.
You only need a license to sell the fish not to use a gill net
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I was under the impression that they had to be licensed - might be wrong though.
So you are basically telling me that any numpty can set as many gill nets as he likes for bass ,so basically ,the only saltwater gamefish in the u.k ,has zero protection,and by reading alot of the u.k threads ,ye are wondering about the lack of bass that ye are seeing ,that's a tough one to figure outYou only need a license to sell the fish not to use a gill net
I wouldn't categorise myself, put myself in a box so to speak.
I am an individual with my unique skill set.
purely for food? then I would just set a gill net, go to bed and reap my reward of 100 kilo of bass.
if I wanted purely sport I would fly fish from the shore line for bass.
6 hour swims to the remote headlands hunting in the kelp with a single tipped speargun and torch followed by long cliff path walks back to the car, in my opinion is very very far from unsporting.
I enjoy the thrill and sport, but also like to take enough fish to feed my family...let's on a best night 5 bass at 2 kilos each 10kilo of meat. 4 sika deer stags are how many kilo? or if you just take 1 deer?
I did watch a you tube vid once of a spearfisherman taking a mountain goat that got to close to the waters edge...arrowloopboy was that you???'banter'
very wise words from an obviously switched on and intelligent person, that has put in the hours and dedication.There is nothing new or unique with regards to night diving and some have been up to it going back decades. Without blowing smoke up his ass Lee's swiftly got some fish to his name in these past years and clearly his dedication to the graveyard shift is somewhat unique as most of us just cant be a$$ed or have other limitations to putting in the time spearing 24/7 year round in the cold UK!
And rightly as has been said if you put in the dedication you shall reap the rewards.
I enjoy the night harvest myself particularly the flatfish and have done ever since I first tried it with dodgy Lidl torches taped to the gun with Weymouth boy Glowworm years ago off Dorset shores.
I have no problems with it as long as the fish are not tadpoles. Recent entrants to spearo tapping off tiddlers while holding their balls is pretty silly and will never make you a hero in any book because you knew full well before you pull a trigger its under size. When in doubt, don't.
We are VERY VERY lucky to be able to night dive.......I am under no illusion that its probably something that would be a huge points scorer for the IFCA's to ban and bring into line with other EU fisheries policies......I cannot stress enough for you to think before you pump it all over the net! You will never win a debate with policy makers, just look at Scottish airgun licencing!
Illegal gill-netting (often by local fishermen topping up!) and pair trawling spawning grounds I do have a problem with but the fishing mafia seem to hold too much sway with fisheries policy and we are not even recognisable to them.
I am protectionist also in that I cant stand 'all' spots being spread around like margarine in the context of the divers still to come in the next twenty years. Keep it between you and a mate or two.......Some spots are obvious but then sometimes that's somebodies local too.
Let newcomers research harder, take a freedive/spearo course, let them make spearo contacts , PM's, bump into people by actually going to the beach, let them learn to read charts, forecasts, maps and find photos themselves.
Don't put it on a silver platter PARTICULARLY for shoredive locations.
Why help concentrate a problem? Its a problem if I drive somewhere for a session and spot even just 2 divers getting out with a stringer full (particularly at night).
It IS happening with spearo....It HAS happened to surfing in the UK and its the same principle but worse because there are infinite waves and generally you could still surf most conditions and be rewarded.
I think about how much the spearo community has exploded/born again since my first UK dives in 1993 here in Newquay and personally I'm all for keeping the detail on the down low!
Obviously the industry in the UK is keen to sell kit and to sell kit you need numbers but the point is its not an infinite resource we are hitting on here in the UK spearo scene in terms of quality fish, and quality locations to catch them in.
Showing us a good catch excites no matter what and if you're bitter towards another spearo then perhaps more time in the water and less on the keyboard is the only way to get the fish in the fridge.
Protect your UK spearing future, for we have definitely turned a corner
Just read this back and it sounds a bit self centred! Just wanted to show my thoughts as a newbie.ATBAmen to that fellas. Part of the attraction for me, as it has been in rod and line fishing, is to study things, look at maps and tide charts, google earth and whatever else, and understand what fish are doing for myself then put that into practice and get some results by my own design( or my close buddies). For me I have never really enjoyed charter boat trips as the hunt, or whatever you call it, has been taken away. So yeah, I might be a newb but I'm really enjoying the spearing and would always choose to put in the legwork and work at it to get results which might not be great now ( who wants to eat fat bass anyway!)but at least it's under my own steam, and will always protect favourite marks from the grockels!
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